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  • Stephen Graf
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      in reply to: What ya got goin? #34098

      Building a surf board can’t be much different than building a bow…

      Especially a self surf board… I saw the penguins movie 8)

      I haven’t shot in over a week. It’s spring break and I have my boy working with me. Doing all kinds of spring things including my big spring project – building a walk in cooler under the back deck (complete with a rail system from my hoist right into the cooler). Should have it dried in today 😀

      Stephen Graf
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        Now that the joke has been revealed, I guess this piece of advice is past it’s due date…

        I would have suggested that after you come to full draw and settle in for the shot, you release the bow instead of the arrow. The results of this improved method upon arrow penetration would be interesting 😀

        I would like to say that within every joke, mistake, wrong turn, and even prejudice can lay a small kernel of truth… Here’s one:

        I have found that EFOC arrows can fly well even if they are torturously under spined. These arrows will not penetrate as well as a correctly spined EFOC arrow.

        I found this effect when I discovered that bare shafts can actually be “tuned” (fly straight) at two different lengths for the same point weight. It shows up in both carbon and wood shafts. I haven’t tried aluminum.

        To see how it works, take a full length arrow shaft and start adding weight to it. Use the most weight you can up front. Then start dropping the weight until the shaft stops acting under spined and flies straight.

        Now take another shaft and match it to the first and shoot it. Once you have verified that it flies the same as the first,

        cut off a quarter inch and see what happens. What I have found is that likely as not, the arrow will begin to act weak again. Which is the opposite of what you would expect. You will then have to keep cutting the shaft until it flies straight again.

        When you compare these two arrows side by side, the shorter one will be more forgiving and will penetrate the target deeper.

        Curious eh?

        Stephen Graf
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          See any piggies on that ranch? Seems like that bow likes ’em 😀

          Stephen Graf
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            That is snazzy! Can’t see paying what they ask for the store bought version…

            But then I just spin the arrows in my palm (field points) or on the work bench (broad heads) and that tells me what I need to know.

            First thing I do after mounting the head is wipe off the excess glue before it has time to cool. Then check the straightness, then dip the point in water.

            Stephen Graf
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              Must be a regional twang…

              My kids would say “y’welkin”.

              Stephen Graf
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                Nice pictures Ralph! But just looking at ’em makes me thirsty for a glass of water. I hope you get a little rain this year.

                Our wild plumbs are in bloom right now too, but the fruit always disappears before it gets the size of a pea. I don’t see any birds eating them. Figure they just fall off.

                Stephen Graf
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                  in reply to: Bare shaft tuning #29583

                  Or you could think of it as a system. The system includes the bow, arrow, and archer. And then there is perspective. I find I am more successful when I tune the bow to shoot the arrow, and not the other way around.

                  Eventually if a person does it enough, it becomes second nature, what needs to be done to get good arrow flight.

                  Byron Ferguson’s book “Become the arrow” is a good place to start. He likes to say that any bow will shoot consistently, it’s the arrow that matters. What he means is that any bow, whether it costs $110 bucks or $2000 bucks is capable of the same level of accuracy if it is correctly tuned with the arrow it shoots.

                  Stephen Graf
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                    That’s a good one!

                    Stephen Graf
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                      What stuck in my craw was not that they were taking shots we might find unethical, it’s that they considered them “gimme” shots.

                      From the context of the story, it was obvious (to me anyway) that a 70 yard shot was super easy to them. It stuck in my craw cause I was jealous of their skill.

                      Stephen Graf
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                        dwcphoto wrote: Steve,

                        Your addition is interesting. I took another look at the article. It seems like they did pretty thorough testing. Also, the photo could be misleading. The deer might have all been dragged to a common place before the photo was taken. I agree that it’s very unlikely they would all die in a heap. It might be more likely that they would all die on a common ground that might have been somewhat sheltered from the winter weather. dwc

                        I’m sure they moved them to that pile. I was just commenting that if they were in a small area when found, that’s odd.

                        I read the testing part several times, seems they did a visual analysis, but no blood work or tissue work from what I can tell. Of course reporters don’t give much detail ever, so it’s just as likely as not that they did blood work.

                        Lots of things can cause blood in the digestive track…

                        Stephen Graf
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                          Not to cast doubt on this problem or minimize it in any way, but…

                          I have a small flock of sheep, which are also ruminants. They are subject to the same problems (so am I for that matter 😳 ) And I can tell when the season changes as their scat gets loose or stiff depending on the transition to hay or grass.

                          But I feed them sheep pellets to keep them coming and friendly and never had to worry about them dying from it.

                          Seems odd to me that 12 deer would all die within a few yards of each other from anything like this. My experience with deer and sheep is that if one gets sick, they wander off by themselves and die somewhere hard to find. Acidosis takes several days/weeks to kill an animal. They wouldn’t all just drop dead.

                          I don’t want to disparage the good folks in the wildlife dept but I have to wonder if it’s just easier to blame it on feeding than to figure out what really happened… I wonder if they did toxicology tests? Maybe somebody got tired of the deer eating their flowers and poisoned them. Or maybe they have .17 pellets in their brains…

                          Stephen Graf
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                            I don’t know what’s changed from then to now, maybe it’s the food or the air. Something’s changed.

                            I read Pope’s book a little while back and there was some good stuff in it. But the one thing that sticks in my craw is his description of 70 yards as “point blank” describing a shot on a bear.

                            Maybe what’s changed is our ability to embellish the truth 😳

                            Another good thread by our very own Hammer!

                            Stephen Graf
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                              Well now, I never even looked at the survival gear thread ’cause I couldn’t care less. I think we spend way too much time worrying about surviving instead of planning on thriving.

                              I figure I’ll survive by my wits alone 🙄 They aren’t so heavy a load.

                              But now, I’ll have to go back and read that thread to see what happened (like a rubbernecker). I have a feeling, Dave, that you have shown your usual mellow wisdom again.

                              Stephen Graf
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                                I carried a 2 feathered arrow this past season. I have tried them in the past with compounds and not cared for it. But after reading the article in TB magazine I thought I’d give’er another go.

                                It worked ok. I noticed it took a bit longer for the broadhead arrow to stabilize.

                                On the whole, I think I prefer 3 for 4 feathers.

                                but I have done as you did many times, and left them that way for a while…

                                Stephen Graf
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                                  in reply to: foc and plungers #25232

                                  I’ve not used a plunger since maybe ’96, so I have no experience based advice.

                                  But I would guess it’s no different than anything else. Just let the bow and arrow tell you what they need. Shoot it as is and let the arrow flight dictate what you do next.

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