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  • Stephen Graf
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      in reply to: HELP WITH CARBONS? #39662

      To achieve the greatest EFOC, it is important to use the lightest shaft you can. CX shafts are heavier than goldtips. My personal experience is that gold tips fly better too. First thing to do is look around for the lightest shaft you can find. Then load up the front.

      I have found that as you get more weight up front, the spine gets less critical. My anecdotal experience is that when the FOC is in the normal 11 to 13% range, my arrows flew better when they were stiffer. As I went to heavier points and more FOC, the arrows flew better weaker.

      If you use a 175 grain point, 125 grain point insert, 100 grain arrow insert that gives 400 grains up front. An arrow will weight about 350 grains, so that is 750 grains total with a good FOC.

      Stephen Graf
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        I’ve been using a cedar oil spray the last few years and it seems to work well. 1 part oil, 9 parts water, and a dash of ivory dish soap. Put it in a spray bottle and shake. The cedar smell lasts for days between spraying. Very cheap too.

        We have a lot of red cedar around here, so it blends in. If you don’t have cedars around, probably not a good idea…

        Stephen Graf
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          I made a reflex/deflex hickory bow in this way. I used 4 laminations of hickory, and a belly of bamboo. It required very little tillering and shot well.

          Unfortunately I got impatient with the weight and narrowed the limbs too much. The bow settled out at 39 lbs.

          I have shot it a lot and it has held up well, just not good enough for hunting…

          Hickory takes a while to settle out. So be patient with it and a laminated design should work just fine.

          Stephen Graf
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            check out bingham projects. They have all the stuff you need to make a bow, and video’s showing the process. – fiberglass backed bows that is…

            Stephen Graf
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              Grasshopper say, Whitetail not foolish. Hunter foolish. 😯

              Stephen Graf
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                You can probably just shoot of the flat shelf just fine. But if you want to get fancy, you can add a little elevation under the bear hair. A small piece of leather can be used to make a high point for the arrow to ride on. Place it over the deepest part of the grip.

                Some folks do the same with the side plate. The idea being the less contact with the arrow, the less effect from hand torquing.

                Stephen Graf
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                  in reply to: The Silent Arrow #26752

                  Dr. Ed Ashby wrote:

                  Here’s something you might try, just for interest. Set up some identical arrows with fletching of the same pattern and size, except for the shape of the fletching’s trailing edge. Try several trailing edge profiles; rounded, V-shaped; straight taper to the rear; shield cut and square cut. … The difference in the audible sound level is astonishing.
                  Ed

                  Will do… after hunting season!!

                  Stephen Graf
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                    Ireland wrote:
                    Steve,

                    Thank you so much for taking the time post the update above. I “missed it” the first time around. What a great idea and what a pleasure to find something that didn’t cost me hundreds of dollars to try. Can’t wait to go out and do some shooting with my new turbulator arrows!

                    Ireland

                    Your welcome! Although I can’t take credit for the turbulator, it was fun to find something to do that didn’t cost much, as you say…

                    So far no luck for me this year… But I have a friend that I have tutored over the last 3 years. He is using the arrows as described and has finally shot his first 2 deer with them this year 😛 He reports that the deer “didn’t jump like they did last year” So I think it is worth the effort…

                    Stephen Graf
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                      Why not a little polyurethane? Or a dab of Tru-Oil? Anything you have around the house should work.

                      The super glue is good for holding down splinters and such. So don’t hesitate to use it to fix any minor defects of that nature…

                      Stephen Graf
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                        in reply to: Helix broadheads #25678

                        Some of the claims are just goofy. It looks like a cross between an ashby head, and a Simmons Shark.

                        This is a product that was spawned from a Sales Rep Brain Storming session. The reps meet with the manufacturer and come up with a product that has all the features the sales reps have been hearing about. This keeps the reps “earning” their commission.

                        They combined:
                        – Simmons Shark – long time favorite, oft imitated
                        – Red Talon – first to claim front steering
                        – Single Edge – “I keep hearing about single edge, why? I
                        don’t know… maybe it helps it fly better? Yea, Yea
                        that’s it steering from the front!!!!”
                        – Sales Rep Ideas – Greater inertia from front steering,
                        Bone breaking thickness, cheap aluminum ferrel, sharpen
                        the backside. I know we can sell ’em!

                        In the end, I’m sure they work fine on a rib shot. I would hate to see them hit a spine or leg bone, that hard angle is a sure bet to get hung up in my opinion…

                        Stephen Graf
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                          The last remaining population of the Eastern Red Wolf is in North Carolina. The accepted explanation for the demise of the red wolf (aside from man of course) is interbreeding with the coyote.

                          This might explain why the eastern Coyote is bigger than it’s western brother. Maybe the Algonquin Wolf = Eastern Red Wolf?

                          I have watched them mouse in the fields. And I have listened as a pack ran a deer down in a gully. I know they were successful because of the bleating I heard at the end… But They keep themselves scarce. They don’t sing much and I have never seen them while hunting around here.

                          But out west, I have seen coyote every time I have hunted in Colorado, Idaho, Indiana… I watched them attack a downed buck that was arrowed just a few minutes earlier. I’ve heard that they circle hunters that are field dressing deer.

                          Western Coyote seem much more aggressive than eastern Coyote. Maybe that will save the Eastern Coyote from the overall negative impression their Western brothers have….

                          Stephen Graf
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                            Tom,

                            It sounds like you are interested in making all wood bows. If this is the case, I would encourage you to take a class from a bowyer. There are several self bow makers that offer classes. I wish I had done that before spending soooo much time on firewood as you say…

                            There are different styles of self bows. There are also backed bows. Figure out what you are interested in before committing to a class and talk to the bowyer about what you want.

                            Dean Torgues made a nice video on bamboo backed bows which is great to watch. He also wrote an enjoyable book on osage self bows. Both are good sources of knowledge.

                            I think the cost of a class is well worth it. Frustration sucks. And chances are you will make some friends in the process…

                            Good luck!

                            Stephen Graf
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                              Duncan – you said you used contact cement… How did you apply the skins, and did you put a finish over them?

                              It looks very nice!

                              Stephen Graf
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                                Dave,

                                Thanks for the offer! If Chiloquin can use them now, then please take them. I am still finishing my tractor shed/chicken coop/rabbit hutch/”bow shop”. And at the same time planning my next bow effort.

                                I can’t take the garage setup anymore.

                                Finished roughing in the wiring yesterday!!! Needless to say, the deer hunting really sucks this year 🙁

                                Stephen Graf
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                                  How long have you been shooting a recurve? It takes a few years to get consistent tight groups. There is the occasional “natural” who can do it faster, but for most of us it is yet another exercise in patience.

                                  I would move up to 15 yards, or 10 yards. Everyone has a limit to their range. And you should definitely practice within that limit. As you improve, you can move back.

                                  Are your arrows flying correctly?

                                  Is your brace hight right? If you twist the string up and increase the brace height the bow will be more forgiving.

                                  When I discovered longbows, I stopped shooting compounds entirely. But I went 2 years without killing a deer with a bow. (I made up for it during black powder 👿 )

                                  The last arrow I shot from a compound killed a big bull moose in Quebec, nearly 60 inch spread. So I left it at that with the compound.

                                  My advice is to do what makes you happy with regard to hunting with the compound. But you may find that when you pick it up and take it to the woods, it isn’t the same friend you remember…

                                  My advice with your recurve is to practice at least twice a week, all year long. It is not like a compound. Shooting a traditional bow is akin to building a relationship. You have to work on it all the time, or it doesn’t develop well…

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