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in reply to: Economist article #27984
A nice summary of things…
I was a bit taken aback that the author classified tree stands as unethical. It’s about the only way to kill a deer around here. You can sit on the ground if you like, but you will starve.
I thought he was a bit generous in his appraisal of compounds as weapons basically as primitive as traditional bows. And while he railed against the commercialization of hunting, he completely missed the uber commercialism associated with compound bows.
And I thought the bit about the NRA was spot on. And still, the average bowhunter around here is a staunch NRA supporter. Guns before bows.
I don’t know if anything will “save” hunting. But I am confident that the last group standing will be the guys with sticks and strings.
in reply to: Time to buy a long bow #26819Hand shock can result from any of several factors depending on the type of bow you are shooting. If you shoot a reflex/deflex hybrid bow that has hand shock, it will be mostly due to poor tillering and/or heavy woods in the limbs.
If you shoot a straighter bow like an american long bow otherwise known as a Hill style bow it will always have some hand shock. But the shock can be almost eliminated by excellent tillering and giving the limbs a bit of backset. Backset means that the tips of the limbs are forward of the handle when the bow is unstrung. By having backset the limbs can be thinner and thus lighter.
You can also reduce hand shock by giving the limbs some string follow. This means having the limbs behind the handle when the bow is unstrung. But you give up performance with this design. It will be slower. Some folks claim that bows with string follow are more forgiving and accurate. That has not been my experience.
True straight limbed bows are the hardest to eliminate hand shock from in my experience. I have never shot a straight limbed bow that was as smooth or shock free as a bow with some back set to it.
You can reduce the hand shock by keeping a loose grip on the bow. That said, many people including myself have injured their bow arm elbow with a shocky bow.
My advise is to try before you buy. I have shot some famous name bows that felt like I was being hit by a truck they were so shocky, so the name doesn’t necessarily say it all.
If you want to talk to someone who makes a nice bow, imho, give Dave Johnson of Dave Johnson Longbows, a call. I’ve never owned one, but I have shot a few here and there.
in reply to: You might be a traditional bowhunter if … #25761Arrows, Arrows, everywhere. Do they breed?
in reply to: Time to buy a long bow #24726Hmmm…. I often wonder if the word longbow hasn’t been used just a bit too easily these days…
What is a longbow? I guess every person must ultimately decide that for themselves. But for me, reflex deflex bows should really be called hybrid bows, or something like that.
The romance of a longbow is such that everyone wants on that train.
But to me, a longbow is a bow that is long, slender, and has at most some backset in the limbs. When it is strung it should have a continuous curve to the limbs. None of this waviness that looks like a sickly recurve, or unnaturally straight limbs that connect the grip and string…
Don’t get me wrong, I love all bows. I just wanted to clarify the discussion first. Just because a women isn’t a blond, that doesn’t make her a red head. In the same way, just because a bow isn’t a recurve, that doesn’t make it a longbow…
Me, I like longbows 😆 But they ain’t cheap. Specifically I like longbows with some back set to the limbs. It gives less hand shock and more speed. I like a dished grip. It seems to center my hand and allow good heel pressure. And I like ’em to be 66 inches. I’ve shot longer, but they are unworkable in blinds or stands. Less than 66 inches is ok too, depending on your draw length.
in reply to: resolution #24715Welcome to the world of traditional bowhunting! As the others have voiced so well, killing is just a small part of what shooting a traditional bow can be.
My only advice is take your time, keep your mind open to all the possibilities, and be patient. No need to set artificial timelines and goals.
I hate the word trophy.
in reply to: Just a thought (on technology)… #24704Well I’m a bit late to the party as usual…. But I gave up on shooting deer at dark a long time ago. I hate looking for deer in the dark. I’m usually out of the woods while it is still twilight. I do have a nice bright head light that lets me see where my fingers are if I manage to kill something and have to field dress it in the dark though…
Hope y’all had a good new years! It was lights out by 11 for me. Just couldn’t make it.
in reply to: A different kind of pay-to-play hunting #168252012 is ancient history in terms of current politics… And while I am sure I would get a bad case of hives trying to find what you are referring to, maybe a link would be good.
I must add too, even an independent must have a dog in the fight. If we all don’t have a dog in the fight, than the fight is fixed.
in reply to: A different kind of pay-to-play hunting #13479Mike,
Thanks for the inadvertent book tip! I’m going to add it to the list… And have a good trip.
in reply to: What type of arrow? #12312Now, Mr. Hammer, the guy said he had a 62 inch 40# recurve in his message. You must have had a beer already 😆
Other than that I think you spoke truly about carbon arrows.
My suggestion for a brand would be gold tip traditional. They are lighter by 2 grains/inch than the carbon express which allows for more FOC. And as for spine, I’d get the 35/55 for that bow.
in reply to: A different kind of pay-to-play hunting #12302colmike wrote: …I wonder if anyone has ever traced the paper trail and reported on where that money really goes…
Well according to the article: “…An audit of the $1 million from the convention drawing was made public in August, prompted by Mr. Boulter’s complaints. It showed that about $250,000 went toward lobbying for increased hunting of wolves, which at the time were still listed as endangered in the Northern Rockies…”
Sounds like our Wildlife Efforts. Our WRC is working to kill out the red wolves in NC. Which means making the species extinct in the wild.
Using conservation funds to exterminate species. That’s quite an ego we humans have.
in reply to: Grip vs form #9266Bender wrote: …Steve Graf’s comment, it makes no sense to me that a set up would shoot accurately, then as time passes, accuracy would deteriorate…
My comment was about the shooter, not the bow. I was observing that you can make a change to your setup that affects the point of impact. But over time, your brain compensates and the point of impact shifts back. Not as a result of equipment change, just a result of the shooter adjusting to the new setup.
in reply to: Yote Robertson #9257UG…
I was warming up after a day of duck hunting with my chums and we were drinking hard when that show came on the TV. My bud has a cabin on the coast and we fish/hunt from it all the time. He sprang for cable since he likes to keep up with college basketball.
Anyway, We watched the episode where they had to climb up a 4 Thousand foot hill. What an over dramatized load of crap. The hardest part of that show for them was probably keeping the camera from showing the road that went to the top.
I hope he at least makes a lot of money of that hogwash. Maybe it’s that I haven’t watched TV in 3 years and all that whiskey affected my opinion of the show, but I’m sticking to it. Can’t get any more dumbed down. Nat Geo has joined the race to the bottom. POOOOOO!!!!!
in reply to: Man can live on peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches #9248And…. back to PB&J. I can go all day on a bottle of water and a couple PB&J’s. If it’s longer than that, it’s out of my league.
in reply to: Guy's that take their bows in kayaks/canoes… #9245I’ve hunted from a canoe many times. Been more worried about dinging the bow up on the canoe/rocks than worried about it getting wet.
Whatever trouble you are about to get into… Have fun!
Nice! Give my regards to the one who endures… And have fun making bows. Are you looking at making all wood bows, or glass backed?
I made a glass backed version of the holmegaard and was not too impressed with it’s get-up-and-go. Just a wall hanger. But I imagine an all wood version would be better.
Boats and bows… Maybe you should get into bowfishing. Then you could make a boat customized for that endeavor 😀
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