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  • Stephen Graf
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      in reply to: Clickers #45965

      jlmiller wrote: I have used a clicker to make sure I am not short drawing but I don’t use it when hunting, not because of the noise, but because the darn string gets tangled in brush while I am walking in or out in the dark.

      Yea, I’m wondering about that too. I replaced the string/chain with a piece of string loop cord (compound bow string loop material). It’s pretty stiff stuff and doesn’t loop around on itself. I’m hoping it will behave in the brush.

      Stephen Graf
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        in reply to: What ya got goin? #45961

        We have lots of Canada geese around here. They don’t migrate anymore, just hang around all year. That said, they don’t hang around my ponds or pastures.

        The neighbors have to kick them out of the way to get to their cars in the morning. But I can’t get within a thousand yards of one. Makes a guy feel like there’s something wrong with him.

        Stephen Graf
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          in reply to: Brace Height #45476

          When a bowyer specifies a brace height, it’s generally with the hope that the archer won’t exceed it by too much.

          The higher the brace height, the more stress on the bow. The more stress on the bow, the more likely it is to fail.

          But no worries, Go as low as you want, and don’t go more than 1/2 inch above what I noted in the previous post and you are well inside the safe zone.

          Higher Brace height will make the bow more forgiving and quieter (usually), but will increase the draw weight, require a stiffer arrow and will shoot slower.

          Lower Brace Height will make the bow less forgiving and noisier (usually), but will reduce the draw weight, require a weaker arrow and will shoot faster.

          Stephen Graf
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            I shot a possum the other day. Was out behind the chicken coop looking for my ground hog buddy that had helped himself a little too liberally to our garden.

            Instead, I found the possum that was looking to help himself to one of our chickens. Normally I’m happy to share a chicken every now and then, it’s just that recently our neighborhood raccoon family has about done in my hospitality.

            Anyway, the wood arrow slid right through that possum like he wasn’t even there. Now normally I’d have a blunt on the arrow but in this case I had grabbed the wrong arrows and was equipped with field points only.

            My previous experience with field points is that a rabbit will stop one before the arrow is through it.

            Just one data point. Must have been a soft possum.

            Stephen Graf
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              in reply to: What ya got goin? #45454

              Time does fly! I spent a few weeks in Alaska during the midnight sun. It was a lot of fun.

              Good luck with the goose hunting! How do you cook those geese?

              Stephen Graf
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                in reply to: Clickers #45449

                You have to experiment a bit to find the right spot. What you are trying to achieve with the clicker is coming to full draw every time.

                You can pull a really light bow and have someone mark the arrow for you. Making sure you are really engaging your back muscles to pull the the bow arm back and in alignment with the arrow.

                You can hold an arrow against the center of your chest and reach as far down the shaft as possible with both hands. The extremity of your reach is another approximation.

                The clickers come with a chain of sorts that make adjustments easy. After you play with it a while and figure out your draw length, get rid of the chain and use just a string. It will be more quiet and less likely to mess up the bow finish.

                Stephen Graf
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                  So the next question is about spine.

                  I have noticed that I am tending to shoot a lighter spine shaft with wood than with carbon.

                  My point is lighter too, but still. I can shoot a 70b shaft with a 190 grain point out of my 55b bow, and it will shoot well. My gold tip 55-75 shafts spine upwards of 80lbs and shoot well with a 250 grain point.

                  The other thing I noticed is that while carbon shafts shoot best keeping them as long as possible, wood arrows seem to like to be kept short as possible, just like the old timers said.

                  Anyone have any rules of thumb about spine / arrow length?

                  Stephen Graf
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                    in reply to: Brace Height #44238

                    There is no magic to it, or right or wrong.

                    Put the string you have made on it, get it shooting quietly, with good arrow flight, and that’s the brace hight.

                    I am not familiar with the Whisper Stix II. But generally you can start with a brace height of:

                    –8 inches for recurve

                    –7 inches for reflex / deflex

                    –6 inches for hill style

                    And increase it from their until the bow is quiet. Once you get it shooting quietly, with good arrow flight, you have your string length.

                    Stephen Graf
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                      in reply to: Clickers #44233

                      Good Man! I too have recently experimented with a clicker. It can really teach you a lot about what you think you know about your form.

                      I am thinking of hunting with it this year. From what I have read on other forums, deer don’t react to it. You can quiet it down with a piece of tape too.

                      I recently read the story of the clickers invention: The fellow that came up with it (forgot name) was an average shooter. He and his family would tour the country going to shoots and never placed more than average.

                      So he invented the clicker and he and his entire family started using it. The next year they all won their national divisions, except him. His 14 year old son won the youth division and the adult division, He came in second.

                      When Earl Hoyt saw that, he bought the patent from him and the rest is, as they say, history.

                      Stephen Graf
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                        in reply to: What ya got goin? #41966

                        shreffler wrote: …my Dad decided to buy me a Binghams kit to build a bow for my college graduation present. All of the materials just came in, starting that this weekend…

                        Sounds like a great thing to do! Once you have the form built and have made a bow, you will need to make one for your dad too.

                        Longbow? Hybrid? Recurve?

                        Graduating from college is a great time of life. Enjoy it fully!

                        Stephen Graf
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                          grumpy wrote: So what is the crow saying every morning at 4:30??

                          I think your young tender ears may not be ready for what the crow has to say 😯

                          I love crows. That said, I think aside from humans, crows display some of the most despicable behavior towards others. And they are so damn smart too.

                          There have been some great studies on crows that show their intellectual power and ability to communicate. One that comes to mind involved a bullet train in France that hit a crow and changed their behavior at a rate faster than the train moved. Another involved a thirsty bird that had a bottle of water. It deduced that if it dropped pebbles in the water, it would raise the water level enough to allow it to take a drink.

                          I think what a group of crows is called sums them up nicely: A murder of crows. Best leave that bird alone grumpy! 😳 😆

                          Stephen Graf
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                            in reply to: Ausjim sitrep #34877

                            Glad things are going mostly well, and take it easy on the knee. They can replace them, but it’s never the same….

                            Stephen Graf
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                              in reply to: Tendonitis? #34404

                              I googled tricep tendonitis, and there are braces for that too!

                              Stephen Graf
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                                Here’s the part that tells me the guy may not be a hunter:

                                “As a recorder captured the ruckus, its instigator grinned with delight. “For birds, this is like a riot,” Dr. Greene said afterward, adding that he heard “a whole set of acoustic stuff going on that’s just associated with predators.” The distinctions are subtle — “even good naturalists and birders can miss this stuff,” he added.”

                                I hear this all the time, and can easily tell when a hawk, or owl comes through the woods. No need to look up from my nap 😆

                                I thought the article was pretty predictable as I read it and got to the above paragraph. But then it started getting better. Very interesting stuff, especially the road noise analysis.

                                I know I get depressed when I hear constant road noise. Takes the life right out of me.

                                And I was impressed with his family structure. All science minded, including the kids. What fun!

                                Thanks for sharing!

                                Stephen Graf
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                                  dwcphoto wrote: …Steve, I’d love to see photos of your bow and maybe a bit of how you built it…

                                  Here’s some pictures of it in the thread that had the back pack quiver I made for elk “hunting”:

                                  http://www.tradbow.com/members/cfmbb/messages.cfm?messageid=D00EFCF9-1422-1DE9-ED15B5DA36AD8CCA#D00EFCF9-1422-1DE9-ED15B5DA36AD8CCA

                                  Not much to tell really. I’ve been fooling with the design for going on 10 years now. Standard hill bow. Limb core is eastern red cedar. Riser is Maple and Cherry. Brown glass on back and belly All wood harvested from downed trees out back.

                                  As for the speed thing, I’m not arguing against a heavy arrow setup. I use the heaviest arrow I can too. I’m just suggesting that finding the sweet spot might be easier if we don’t focus on just arrow weight. For me anyway, that’s what I’ve found.

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