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in reply to: Re-Thinking old Thoughts on Woodies #32026
So My stumping quiver had six arrows in it, three POC and three Norway Spruce.
I am down to one POC and the three Norway Spruce.
The NS does seem tougher than the POC by a fair amount.
The most notable shot was a 50 yard shot that ended with the harsh sound of an arrow hitting rock. The arrow came down, then shot back up in the air and went off to the left into some thick tangles like a wounded deer to die.
I figured that was it for that arrow. I wasn’t going to retrieve it, but then decided that I must in order to carry out this experiment correctly. After digging through the poison ivy for a while I came up with the arrow. It was still in one piece.
I am reading Robert Elmer’s book “Target Shooting” written in the forties. He also extolls the merits of Norway Spruce.
in reply to: Getting back into it #31922eidsvolling wrote: 1. Find a traditional club or mentor in your area if possible. Here’s a good place to start: https://www.tradbow.com/public/Club-Listings-and-Mentors.cfm
2. Buy The Traditional Bowhunter’s Handbook– https://www.tradbow.com/products/item44.cfm You will not find a better resource for getting started on your questions and others.
3. Carve out some time to read the advice you will receive here from the friendliest group of bowhunters on the planet, bar none.
4. Have fun!
Spot on!
in reply to: What ya got goin? #36919John that sounds really great! What will you be bowfishing for?
Your stories remind me of Igor Ruhds (sp?) adventurous life. Salute!
in reply to: Wanting to say Hi #31407Welcome!
This forum seems to have the summer doldrums already, but stick around, it’s fun.
in reply to: Get off your duff and go recruit a new bowhunter #20211Ug. What a stilted bigoted and self serving article. Reminds me why I got out of the rat race. The archery “industry” is filled with small companies managed by marginal businessmen of mediocre intelligence [I know, I used to be one of them 🙄 ]
Bring women into archery? A nobel effort. Hey, lets call ’em “Lady Bowhunters” and make pink bows. Dumb A$$’s
Bring young people into archery? Another nobel effort. Hey, lets call ’em liberal hipsters, that aught to do it. Dumb A$$’s
They should have rounded out their bigotry in the article by mentioning the need for more Darkies in the sport. How’d they miss that one?
An article short on facts and long on labels. Any wonder why the ATA is ineffective?
Sorry for the rant. I just hate to see archery get double whammed by those that want to profit from the gizmo market at any cost while caring little for the actual tradition of archery, or the people that love it.
I’ve got a flip phone. Never could warm up to a smart-A$$ phone. It fits in a nice holster on my belt, so no worries about loss. It’s water proof so no worries about the rain or duck hunting. And when I get a text message, no worries about responding to it. Everybody knows it takes me forever to punch out a message on the keypad 🙄
in reply to: What ya got goin? #59471You forgot the riser 🙄
What’s the WD-40 for?
in reply to: Re-Thinking old Thoughts on Woodies #54267I tried to get some Norway Spruce Arrows from Kustom King, but they were out of the 50-55 spine. That’s when I learned that Lancaster Archery also carries them. They had the arrows in 50-55 and shipped the same day.
I found the arrows to be straight. The grain is not as tight or straight as we have come to expect with POC or Sitka Spruce. There is also more run off than I would normally be comfortable with.
The first step was to decide which end would be the nock end. I chose the end with the least run off as the nock end. As it turned out, the runoff was mostly within 1/3 shaft length of one end. This left the other end good and strong.
The shafts are whiter than Sitka Spruce and when I stained them with my Canary Yellow dye, they really looked good.
The finished weight of the shafts was about 10 grains less than Sitka Spruce shafts of the same specifications. I was hoping for a little more difference.
That said, A friend got some shafts in 5/16 diameter and finished them out and they turned out to be 50 grains lighter than his sitka shafts. Not sure why the variation in results.
Arrows fly true.
Based on the shafts alone, I would rate them just below our American Sitka Spruce. But considering the price and sustainable nature of the wood, my choice for arrow wood in the future will likely be Norway Spruce.
Sitka Spruce is becoming rare as it has not been sustainably harvested. It’s the usual story, chop it down with abandon and cry like a baby when the government protects the last remnants.
The Germans have been managing their forests for hundreds of years (Aldo Leopold travelled to Germany to learn Forest Management from them). So this wood is not the 700 year old trees we are used to (and hence the less straight grain with more run off), but there is no danger of running out of it. Hence the better price and availability.
I have some stumping arrows made up. The last test will be to take them for a walk in the woods and see if they hold up against the normal wear and tear. If they do, This will be my new favorite arrow wood.
in reply to: What ya got goin? #54099I’m sure she would have moved, had you insisted. I’m glad you didn’t.
in reply to: Best target #43391R2 wrote: “If you just want to buy a target, I can’t help you much. Most store bought targets can be shot out in a few days by a traditional archer.
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Steve,I’m assuming you be hitting the target with regularity? 🙄
Good catch Ralph! My philosophy is to only hit the backstop, avoiding the target at all costs 😈 Hitting the target is so predictable and boring. But missing the target each and every time in a new and unexpected way is invigorating 😈 👿 🙄 😳
in reply to: What ya got goin? #43345R2 wrote: Texas is big enough to be dry on one end, wet on the other…
You Texas boys remind me of them fellows with big trucks… What are they making up for 🙄
Alex – Good story! But alas, I think you missed the point. You see, Mr. Turkey was teaching you a lesson. He was telling you that not only did he know you were there behind him, but he knows full well (as every gentleman does) what time of day it was. He was also subtly chiding you for not coming properly attired for the event with sharp and ready broadheads. Snobby old bird 😀
in reply to: What ya got goin? #43288DE wrote: … There are subtle but important differences between shooting dirty and dirty shooting.
Funny!
in reply to: Best target #30918I made a target some years ago that still works well. Make a roofed frame that will hold 3 bales of hay. Affix some rubber stall mat to the back wall of it. Put the bales of hay in front of it. There you go. Use hay not straw. Hay lasts longer and stops arrows better.
Over the years I’ve added new stall mat as the old mat gets shot out. Each new layer lasts longer than the last as it has the mat behind it to help absorb the shock.
If you just want to buy a target, I can’t help you much. Most store bought targets can be shot out in a few days by a traditional archer.
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