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in reply to: What ya got goin'? 2 #126745
Dry as a bone here. Had our first rain in a month last night. I’m guessing near an inch. Have to check the rain gauge still, so we’ll see. Enough to green up the grass I am sure.
We don’t get events like ETAR in our area. One of these years I’d like to make the journey. I expect it will have to wait till the kids are fledged…
in reply to: Cock Feather In #126629Sorry David….
Oh yea, arrow flight…. In my experience it doesn’t much matter which way the cock feather is oriented. I’ve noticed that some bows prefer it one way, and some the other.
With carbon arrows, you can do what you want. With wood arrows, it’s a good idea to get the grain run out oriented correctly so that, should the arrow break, it will break away from your hand. Then orienting the cock feather becomes more of a safety issue than an accuracy issue.
in reply to: Finger pain #126618Grumpy, Is that why you have no appendages to spare?
in reply to: Cock Feather In #126617The cock feather is so named because of it’s purpose in making the arrow ready to shoot. It is the same usage as when we say the gun is cocked.
By the same token, the other two feathers are not “hen” feathers as is commonly believed. They are actually called shaft feathers.
Here endith the lesson. Grumpy, get your hands out of your pants (rolling eyes emoji here)
in reply to: Temp and Bow Function #126616If the bow in question is a self bow, then temperature is a factor. The hotter it is, the worse the cast.
If the bow in question is a steel bow, then temperature is a factor. The hotter it is, the better the cast.
If the bow in question is a wood/fiberglass laminate, then temperature is not much of a factor (assuming temp is not high enough to cause glue failure). In such a bow, the fiberglass does most of the work and is not much affected by heat.
in reply to: Finger pain #126414Your welcome! Hope it helps.
One the interesting things he observed in the book was that if you have a callus somewhere on your hand from the string, it means the string is rubbing that spot. Which in turn means the finger isn’t leaving the string correctly.
I used to have a monster callus on my ring finger. Since learning to better balance my fingers, that callus has diminished significantly.
in reply to: Finger pain #126360David,
Sorry to hear about your finger. I’ve been through a few finger episodes myself.
For clarification, By “first joint”, do you mean the one closest to the end of your finger, or closest to your palm? I’m guessing you are talking about the joint that takes the string.
If that joint is suffering from shooting, it means that it is doing most of the work during the draw. Ideally, the load should be evenly distributed between the 3 fingers.
Ray Axford, in his book Archery Anatomy, suggests picking the string up with the first and third finger, putting a slight load on the hand, and then picking the string up with the middle finger. I’ve found this method helpful as I tend to have a lazy index finger.
in reply to: Very light bows #126339I’ve taken deer with a 45lb bow. I have a friend that can’t pull more than 37 lbs. He gets deer every year.
in reply to: Newbie traditional archery bow question/help. #126301You will want to shoot a much lighter bow than you think. The draw weight of your compound really has nothing to do with what bow weight you should start with. For example, back in my pulley-gun days, I pulled an 80lb compound no problem. When I switched to a recurve, I started at 60lbs. That nearly did me in with shoulder pain. Went to a 45lb bow and all was good. These days I stick around 55lb.
As for bow style, recurve or longbow, nobody can help you decide what to do. I would advise against dropping big money on your first bow. Most people tend to go through a number of bows while finding themselves in the traditional world. You can have your choice of many different used bows for $200 or less that will give you a taste. Once you find yourself, you can drop some cash on an expensive bow if you want.
One of the virtue’s that traditional archery teaches us is patience. While it is not uncommon to pick up a compound for the first time, shoot it a while, and then go hunting 3 hours later, that scenario will most often not work out well with traditional gear.
Some folks have stories of killing critters their first year with a trad bow. For me, it took 3 years to finally get in the groove and start killing deer.
All the bows you mention are good bows. There is also nothing wrong with your 30# bow either. That would make a good bow to develop your form and shooting style with, before investing in another. There is nothing more fun than stumping through the woods with a fellow toxophilite. IMO, that is where you should start. Find a friend that shoots, and have at it! If that person has some experience, they will be your best source for what to do next…
in reply to: What ya got goin'? 2 #125995I will let you know how it goes! I’ve been committed to the swing draw for coming up on two years now. It’s a long term thing to get right for an old timer. But I hope to have 3 or 4 more decades to enjoy the results.
I will post some pictures.
Glad to see you swinging through these here parts again David!
Any way to get long threads to have pages? Take the new R2 What’s you got going? thread. It’s getting long and it is cumbersome to have to scroll down / up. Most forums (like this one used to do) organize long threads into pages. Sure would be nice.
Along the same lines, the sidebar navigation window scrolls up with the thread. It would be nice if it stayed in place so you wouldn’t have to scroll back to the top to navigate.
I miss the old forum (sad face emoji)
in reply to: What ya got goin'? 2 #125949“Typical R2 Dozen”, that’s a hoot! My dozen’s seem to be like that too. Not too many from the problems you’ve been having though (rolling eyes emoji)
I’m working on a new dozen (10 after initial spine test). Gonna be my usual canary yellow with 3ea 5 1/2 inch parabolic turkey feathers (from this year’s birds collected around here). They will be affixed to the shaft straight with no offset or helical. Last 10 inches or so of the shaft tapered from 11/32 to 5/16.
These are going with me to Montana next month. I’m taking a class with John Schulz. This being his last summer of teaching, so he says.
in reply to: Humboldt Archers 3D Shoot #125948That’s some good shooting on that turkey! Dang.
in reply to: First Longbow #125931You seem to have a good sense of what the troubles are/could be.
Going up 10 lbs in weight is a big step. It can cause all sorts of problems like target panic and bad form. That said, if it’s what you want to do, then go for it. It just means more work on your part, and nothing else.
As to the question of whether one bow style is more forgiving than another, I’d say the truth is that they are just different beasts. And that said, I think a hybrid bow (deflex / reflex “longbow”) shoots more like a recurve than a straight end longbow. Since you didn’t mention which you had, I will assume it’s a hybrid.
Shooting left for a right hand shooter is symptomatic of a number of issues. It could be that your form is too open (facing the target instead of sideways to the target), it could be that you are torquing the grip, it could be you are dropping your bowarm at the shot, it could be you are not getting to anchor with your string hand, or it could be that your string arm elbow is too high, it could be that you’ve locked your bow arm elbow instead of having it slightly bent (typical for a recurve shooter) Whew! Finally, and most likely, it is a combination of these things.
When I practice, I take just one arrow with me. That way I am not tempted to spatter a bunch of arrows in frustration.
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