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in reply to: Elm Møllegabet bow #9663
You are getting better! That is a great looking bow.
What’s the difference between this bow and a holmgaard design?
in reply to: Grandson's Christmas present #63838Not only is he lucky, if he shoots a 48 lb bow, he must be pretty close to going hunting with his Gramps!
Maybe grandpa is lucky too…
Beautiful bow.
in reply to: new long bow #63833It’s really best to test a bow out before you buy it. I think 3 Rivers lets you test it out, as do many of the custom guys.
I’m sure some folks will chime in here saying how great the 3R bow is. So if that bow speaks to you, try it out. If it doesn’t work for you, it will cost you just the shipping.
in reply to: EFOC without the IF? #58172You can also glue about a 1 inch piece of aluminum arrow shaft over the end of the arrow. I did that this year and have found that it protects the arrow from mushrooming or breaking quite well.
But as has been said, carbon arrows are plenty tough by themselves. No modification needed.
in reply to: Beginner Basics #54897All I can add to what’s been said is to buy a used bow cheap. If you can find a shop somewhere close, they usually have a variety of used bows on the wall for $75.00 or so.
As you start out with traditional gear, your draw length will change, your release will develop, and your strength will develop. Not to mention your taste in bows.
Buying cheap bows will allow you to develop your tastes in equipment without causing you to break the bank, or tick off the wife… 🙄
in reply to: bow strings #54886A few years back I got a Bear Cheyenne recurve that came with the wrong string. It was an endless loop string at least 2 inches too long. In a fit of laziness, I twisted it up at least 2 inches. It worked just fine.
When I replaced the string a year later or so, I bought a string that was the same length as the now twisted up factory string.
Then I learned to make my own flemish stings, and haven’t been stuck for a string since 😀 .
in reply to: Hardwood Arrows #45995It’s not how they fly, it’s how they penetrate. I would like to use wood, just because. But I am a meat hunter, and carbon arrows bring home the meat.
Target shooters can use them because their score isn’t dependent on target penetration.
Just so’s nobody takes these for fighting words… I know wooden arrows in the hands of the right people will be just as deadly as carbon arrows in my hands. It’s just that I can’t count on making a perfect shot every time….
in reply to: River Cane arrows #44800Look up “Eagles Flight Archery” in Mebane NC. I don’t think Don sells it on his website, but he grows it in his backyard and has it bundled up and ready to go.
He has the Japanese Arrow Bamboo.
But don’t mention my name. He may charge you twice as much!
in reply to: Flint Quest #44789The intro says he is using “self gear” but the bow is a modern takedown fiberglass bow. Hmmmmm.
in reply to: Grunting 101 #37578I have used the can, antlers, and all the stuff. What I have found is that in my neck of the woods, it brings in the little fellas. But the south is a tough place for a deer to make a living in peace. I think that by the time a deer gets to be 3 years old, he is way too wise for this stuff.
Specifically to the can – I have heard does vocalize many times in the woods. I have never heard one whine. It is always a short sound. When I use the can, I cut the time down to less than a second.
My highest use for grunts and bleats is to stop a buck for the shot. I have found that I can do a better job imitating the doe sounds I have heard in the woods with my own voice.
But, as I said before, I think the effectiveness of calls really depends on where you hunt and how the deer population is managed, and the buck/doe ratio.
in reply to: Oh where, oh where have the Moose all gone… #37562While I have harvested a big old bull with my bow,…. I am no expert. In fact, I know almost nothing about moose behavior.
With that said, I have read a few articles that discussed behavior a bit. From what I remember, moose tend to move from the rivers to the hills and back based on the season and the weather.
It may be that the place you scouted in the summer is always full of moose in the summer, and not in the fall. My humble advice is to scout now, when you would be hunting, to see where the moose are this time of year. If you only get 1 chance every 5 years, I’d be scouting all the falls in between and forget the summer scouting.
in reply to: Arrow length #34216Brad – you are right. We are talking about two arrows that are both spined correctly for the bow.
The center of mass is that point about which the mass is balanced. So if you balance the arrow on a knife blade, the balance point is the center of mass.
If both arrows are spined correctly, that means that they flex around the bow in such a way that their trajectory is directly at the target and they are not deflected by the handle.
So, as I mentioned before, if you make a perfect shot with either arrow, it will fly perfectly to the target.
But… If you don’t make a perfect shot. If you torque the handle, or drop the bow, or pluck the string, etc… The longer arrow will tend to be less affected and continue on its intended path and hit closer to the mark than a shorter arrow.
To demonstrate this, take the long stick again. This time hold the end of it in your hand and “aim” it at a target and throw it. Now try the same experiment with a much shorter stick, again holding it by the very back. You will have a much harder time getting the shorter stick to the target.
In short, the longer the distance between the string (point of thrust) and the arrow center of mass, the more forgiving the arrow will be when shot. Duncan basically said this when he observed that the closer the center of mass is to the handle, the more stable the arrow flight will be…
We have talked too much about this. It is very easy to test. Just take a full length arrow and a short arrow. Tune ’em up and then shoot them 10 times each. Measure your groups. I am betting the longer arrow will give you a better group. 😀
If not, then you will be by definition, a much better shot than me (not that great a claim to fame 🙄 ). For it means you have perfect form.
It’s like shooting a bow with very low brace height. It is well established (I hope) that a high brace height is more forgiving. But if you are a great shot, then it doesn’t matter what the brace height is. For you will always shoot well. But for a poor shot like me, I need all the help I can get, so I try to tease as much brace height out as I can…
in reply to: Arrow length #33840John Carter wrote: Sorry Steve, but mate your going to need to quantify that before I buy it.
The way I see it “all things being equal” there’s not going to be any difference at all for the simple fact both arrows would be in perfect tune.
Here’s an experiment you can try that will illustrate the inherent stability of a longer arrow : place the butt end of a 6 foot stick on your palm. Now let go of it and keep the stick from falling. You will find this fairly easy to do. Now use a shorter stick, and shorter stick. Eventually you will not be able to balance it at all.
The ease with which you can balance the stick is proportional to the distance between your palm and the center of mass of the stick. The closer the center of mass is to your palm, the harder it is to balance the stick.
To prove this to yourself, take a stick that you almost couldn’t balance and add a weight to the end of it. Now try to balance it again with the weight end up in the air. Now you will find that you can balance the stick easily again. this is because the center of mass has been moved away from your palm.
Finally, now that you have experience with what it is like to balance sticks, try holding your arrows in the same way. A long one and a short one. Even if there is only 2 inches difference in length, you will find that it is easier to balance the longer one.
What this translates into when shooting a bow is forgiveness. If you can make a perfect shot every time, then use whatever arrow you want. But if you are inclined to screw up (like me), then you will appreciate a forgiving arrow.
in reply to: Arrow length #32678John Carter wrote: Length is simply one element of tuning,,,no length will provide better flight or forgivness than another simply due to length,,,
All else being equal. A longer arrow is more forgiving than a shorter arrow.
in reply to: Arrow length #3154330 inches is a long draw!!! Remind me of that if we ever get into a bar fight so I can run 😯
In general, a longer arrow will give you better flight and a more forgiving shot (and a better sight picture in my opinion). With aluminum and carbon, it is no problem using longer arrows. With wood, it is sometimes hard to get the spine right with longer lengths. Especially if the bow weight is high.
So leave ’em long. And shoot straight.
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