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      That’s great — to be able to shoot up and down elevation shots in and around a ditch like that.  My archery club here on the edge of the Texas Hill Country has terrain with lots of cuts and elevation change on a 3D course set up year-round.  And I also like the ladder blind built by DWC.  Anything that makes the practice more realistic is a good thing, I believe.  There is always plenty to go wrong in the real situation, and practicing for as many of the variables as you can has to help.

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        I’m sorry it’s just now warming up for some of  y’all, but I’ve already mowed my grass twice down here in Texas! 🙂

        Best use of paper-plate proficiency, to me, is self-regulation and motivation to get better.  Keep shooting whatever yardage you need to to keep all the arrows on the plate — really most should be withing the six-inch ring. If hunting, figure out a way to mark the outside distance your “money” at and make that YOUR kill zone distance.  Simple.  Clean kills, Short tracks. Fresh meat.

         

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          in reply to: Tuff Head #136214

          Scout:

          Thank you, sir. Just saw your post.  Those hogs were killed in Texas — specifically, Fairfield, Texas, at 3Fingers Bowhunting.  That’s about 90 miles south of Dallas and 60 miles east of Waco, if that helps.  🙂

          As far as the tackle:

          Shooting with a 73#@28 custom Jay Weathers 3-piece take-down recurve (my DL about 27″, so, maybe pulling 68 pounds) .  Arrows are 680-grain 400 spine Warrior carbons left close to full length (trimmed to about 31-1/4″ to back of exposed insert.  FOC is about 27%, with the 400 grains up front (100-grain brass insert, 225-grain Tuffhead two-blade with 75-grain adapter).

          As you can see from the blood-matted fletchings, the set-up got a complete pass-through on the small pig.  The big one was 238 pounds and ate just fine. The shot on him was hard quartering away from 15 yards, and penetrated about 1/2″ of his gristle “shield” to get heart and lungs and stop at the off leg.  He went about 100 yards, trailing buckets of blood and was doornail dead when we got to him a few minutes later.

          Tigertrad

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            More power to y’all who want to voluntarily sit on the ground.  Personally, I prefer a stool, although on my last hunt I found a convenient log among some deadfall to set up a spot.

            For those wanting a stool, I don’t have a particular model to recommend, BUT I do have some advice:  whatever model you’re considering, make sure you sit on it and wiggle around some first to test quietness.  Couple of years ago, I bought a nice new one and took it out untried into the woods, set up in a pop-up, and proceeded to sit on the squeakiest seat I’ve ever come across. No way to shift weight, much less draw your bow without spooking game. Fine for a campfire stool but NOT for hunting.

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              in reply to: Tuff Head #135981

              Here’s another Tuff Head kill:

              tigertrad
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                in reply to: Tuff Head #135980

                Glad to see Tuff Head will be carried on; congrats to the new owner.  Must confess to some selfish concern over the possible end of the road in talking to Mr. Furlong by phone a few months ago as I placed an order for some more of those great broadheads. (By the way, that’s what I used for the avatar boar.)

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                  in reply to: Numb fingers #135978

                  If the tab works and you like it, that’s great.

                  If you want to stick with a glove, I can relate a similar experience I had with numbness from using a thin leather glove.  Got a heavy recurve  (70-lbs) less than a week before a big shoot, so I shot about 400 arrows in three days getting dialed in.  I shoot three-under, and fingers stayed numb for a few weeks.  I searched some heavy-bow forums on the topic, and saw folks suggesting a Dura Glove. Ordered one, and the problem went away, as the numbness faded shortly.  It has a cordura layer on the outside with leather underneath.  Still has good feel but without the numbness.

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                    Usually find some fresh cow manure on the walk to the tree stand to step in. Have used commercial spray stuff that seems effective, but planning to try smoke. Also, like the sound of the chlorophyll product mentioned above. Often have half a dozen deer eating hand-thrown corn within 10-15 yards, irrespective of wind direction (hunting about 15-ft up in lock-on stand).

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                      Congrats! Nice elk! Looking forward to the full story.

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                        Congrats! Great story and serious nerve shown to get that swamp bear.

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                          Said the arrows were flying “pretty well” above, so I wanted to try and get them flying really well. Realized a possible problem I was forgetting about while reading Doc Nock’s thread in this forum regarding brace height possibly affecting EFOC arrows’ flight. Checked the brace height on my 66″ early ’60s Ben Pearson Javelina recurve, which should be around 8 inches: it was barely 7 inches! Hadn’t noticed the string stretch from leaving it strung for a while and shooting a bunch (wasn’t hitting my wrist). Doc’s thread mentioned erratic flight (think the term used was “squirrely”) as a symptom caused by the front of the fletchings hitting the arrow shelf while the arrow nock is still in contact with the string. Anyway, twisted up string to get brace height at 8″, but forgot to move metal nock while at home and went to range. Flight was improved but not quite consistent. Looked at nocked arrow from side and realized nock point was virtually 90 degrees. Lacking a tool to raise nock, simply nocked arrow above the nock point — probably about 3/8ths” above perpendicular — and started shooting 3 to 4 inch groups flying like darts at 20 yards. Mention all this as a reminder to anyone building heavy arrows to be mindful of proper bow setup when tuning those arrows.

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                            Yessir, Smith, that’s the plan is to be ready for anything. Plan to shoot a whitetail broadside, but a slight turn could put bone into play; plus, hogs are tough and plentiful in Texas. BTW, I noticed that I wrote GRAMS for the arrow weight when I, of course, meant GRAINS. The arrows aren’t steel rebar. 🙂

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                              So it looks like the 400 spine arrows are working in my 50# recurve. The old arrows were 447 grams with a FOC of 15.4% (at 32.5 inches long); the heavyweights (added 100-grain brass insert, plus 75-grain adapter and 225-grain field tip) come in at 679 grams with 28.75% FOC (at 32 inches). Flying pretty well with slightly over 1/2-inch cut off the back and I added a piece of toothpick under the arrow shelf pad. Brain working arc adjustments pretty well up to about 30 yards after shooting 300 – 400 arrows over five or six practice/tuning sessions to date. Thanks for the help y’all!

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                                Smithhammer wrote: [quote=Doc Nock]

                                As for Doc’s article on plains arrows being EFOC, I’d like to see that article nd all the variables he examined. He’s very meticulous about what he finds and reports… and that statement casts a wide net. Just saying. I like EFOC for my personal use… but …

                                I’d like to see more info about this as well. [

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                                Smith: BTW you actually posted on the thread regarding Plains Indian arrows, referenced above (showed pics of r/d bows and EFOC arrows). Post was in wee hours. 🙂

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                                  Referenced material is in a post by Dr. Ashby in the Friends of FOC forum, in a thread titled “Plains Indian arrows” (dated Feb. 6, 2014) Additionally, he addresses the idea of primitive archers using high FOC arrows in a July 9, 2009 post on the “Ashby Reports Reborn” thread (also in the Friends of FOC forum), regarding the Papua New Guinea tribes where he measured “wood shafted arrows with over 40 percent FOC.”

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