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David Petersen wrote: ….And in my experience ONLY “hunters” put it there.
Unfortunately, I’m seeing lots of orange flagging these days in my woods from a different user group – mountain bikers. Specifically, bikers with a fervor to develop as many trails on public land as possible, and on a number of occasions, illegally. A number of trails in the mountains around my house – even fairly obscure game trails, have been flagged every 15 ft. with orange flagging for “future development” (never mind that these trail expanssions have not been approved by land mgrs). I spent a lot of time this past fall tearing down every piece of it that I came across, only to find new flagging a few weeks later – and it’s clearly not being placed there by hunters.
I grew up mountain biking, and still do on occasion, but a certain segment of the mountain biking community, and their entitled attitude that seems to assume all public lands are fair game for more and more trails, with no concern for impacts on wildlife and other user groups, has gotten out of hand in some areas.
I came across this old Damon Howatt ad the other day, and I thought this thread might be a good place for it. Not exactly a pre-20th century example of D/R, but from 1954 and an interesting example regardless:
I had never heard of this old Howatt model before – it must have been short-lived? I’d love to see one of these in the flesh, and shoot it!
Hmmm….this thread is already exceeding my expectations. 😉
Thanks for all the input folks. The idea that shaft material, and not weight, is the only variable, makes me think of new questions, but I’ll hold off on those for now. I’m looking forward to Graf weighing in on this one…
Doc – you wasted no time in hitting on one of my immediate follow-up thoughts as I pondered this question more, which is the varying characteristics of different shaft materials. I’m bet that, for example, wood shafts and carbon shafts are going to exhibit fairly different behaviors in this exercise.
But for simplicity’s sake – let’s keep apples to apples and just say that aside from a difference in weight, we are talking about the exact same shaft material, same shelf cut, shaft length, etc.
With all else being exactly the same, are a 450gr. arrow and a 600gr. arrow going to sustain the same amount of paradox, for the same amount of flight time?
Or, from a pure physics POV, does an object with additional mass absorb oscillations more quickly than the otherwise exact same object with lighter mass?
I realize I might be simplifying this to the point of making an answer impossible, but I’m also trying to keep from entering too many other variables into it and making it an overly complex question.
Just something fun to ponder as I sip my first pint of the evening and prepare for my Better Half to kick my @$$ in cribbage yet again…
Yowza!!! The Java Man has really outdone himself on this one!! Congrats on a stunning bow, Patrick. ANd I would say that this is no time to be patient – put that baby through its paces!!!
Here’s my thinking (from very much a layman’s perspective):
Additional mass would absorb oscillations more quickly, therefore, the heavier arrow would recover from paradox sooner than a lighter arrow (all else being equal).
I have no idea if that has any basis in fact, but it’s my working theory to stoke the conversation…
