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in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #9359

Oh yea..totally agree on the loosing a little horsepower using unmatched twisiting.

Being righthanded I always have shot right wing and shoot right bevel. However, I have often wondered whey SO many right handers shoot left wing feathers. What am I missing?

Richie

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in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #8161

What I “think” is that is doesn’t have a measureable affect in flight, just when meeting a stiffer resistance. But could be totally wrong. Only a very few times I have shot a single right bevel Grizzly with a left wing fletch arrow. The arrow spun left until it hit the target then twisted right.

Richie

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in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #55866

USMC 82-86,
I have absolutely no idea what it is like to loose your soldier buddies. Not a clue but I am very sorry that happened.

That date was 4 days before I turned 16 yrs. old and two months before I killed my first deer. You were part of allowing me to do that.

All this traditional bowhunting stuff we like to do is really nice and wonderful.
But USMC 82-86… I can’t tell you how much I appreciate what you have done for me, my family and this country so I can enjoy traditional archery and so many things that I have the freedom to pursue, including happiness.

Thank you sir,

Richie

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in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #54550

I appreciate your response, but I understand the new woodsman elite has a pyramid tip now which would probably provide a little more strength.

If I am not mistaken the “woodsman elite” is not just an improved “woodsman”. They are two totally different broadheads because the “woodsman elite” is a VPA Terminator that is called “woodsman elite” in some circles.

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in reply to: HEAVIER HEADS….? #48680

Dave, I totally agree with your post. My problem is pittling and tinkering to get what I think is the most lethal arrow I can build…and then NOT stopping there.
I could be a charter member of “Arrow Scientist Wannabe Anonymous.”

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in reply to: HEAVIER HEADS….? #46460

Please listen to other’s response to this. There is a wealth of information that is available to answer your question.
I have zero experience with Magnus heads but I hear they do very well on deer, like 99% of broadheads do.
The additional weight will definitely help with penetration BUT in doing so you must keep the arrow flying perfectly to reap the penetration benefits.
So..depending on the arrow spine you are currently using the 175 grain head you mentioned may or may not allow your arrow to fly as well as it should. The heavier weight tends to weaken the arrow.
That is my answer in a nutshell but again listen to what others hear tell you and read the Ashby reports in the “Ashby Library” up top.

Richie

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in reply to: elk #44236

My biggest surprise through all of this has been how forgiving of spine carbons are, and how much weight I can hang on front of any shaft, so long as it’s within spine range, before the arc becomes so high I must reject it … and even then they fly straight.

Ain’t no doubt whatsoever about that statement. Until you experience it you won’t believe it is possible.

Richie

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in reply to: EFoc and Carbon Arrows #39027

Mike,
I’m shooting 71@31.

Remember to begin the building process with a stiff, lightest grain per inch arrow you can find. That allows YOU to make the arrow heavier by loading up the front. Then, of course the front weight will weaken the stiff arrow back to a tuned arrow with Ultra EFOC. Wha La.

Richie

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in reply to: EFoc and Carbon Arrows #38581

Mike,
That is correct. The UEFOC arrows shoot flatter than you would think.
I know from the arrows I have hand loaded and shot that the heavy 30-35% arrow shoots flatter over a longer distance than the same total weight arrow with 19% FOC. Not a huge amount but it is noticeable and significant. No doubt in my mind.

Out of MY quiver…a 900 gr 30+% FOC arrow has a very very similiar flight path or trajectory as a 750-800 gr arrow with normal 20ish % FOC.

In the recent past I would not do this but now I am comfortable shooting a 900-950 gr. 34% FOC arrow out to 35 yards because it is like shooting my elk arrows that were 770 grains but only 19% FOC.

It really surprised me in the beginning so I asked Dr Asbhy if I was seing things or if it was really happening. He said it is true, that he had discovered the same results. He also mentioned (in a thread somewhere here) that he conducted a demonstration at an outdoor/hunting event showing how the high FOC arrows will travel flatter. He used a rubber washer on an arrow that he could slide along the shaft. When he put the washer way up front creating Ultra EFOC, the arrow would hit the back wall of the building. With the lower FOC, the arrow would not go as far hitting the floor in front of the wall. That is what I remember from what he said.
Maybe someone can find that stinkin thread.

Richie

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in reply to: EFoc and Carbon Arrows #38321

Now you’re cookin with gas:lol:…..
That medicene will leave a mark.

The Ultra EFOC has a lot to do with trajectory staying flatter than expected compared to the same weight arrow with average FOC.
There is a difference. It’s a Win Win difference.

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in reply to: EFoc and Carbon Arrows #37803

Michael,
I haven’t had the experience most here have had using many different broadheads but I like the Grizzlys. I have recently acquired a few abowyer large boneheads to try but my preferred is the Grizzly. I hunt whitetails and hogs in South Alabama as well as elk in SW CO the last three years.

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in reply to: EFoc and Carbon Arrows #36890

Tom,
First, I use the more pointed field tips, not the rounded blunt type. I grind down the front, just eyeballing as I taper it to the shape of the ferrule.
I try to only use the front 1/2″or so (from the point) so I will have as much area as possible behind the broadhead for draw clearance.

The pictures show a small and large adapter.

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in reply to: Broadhead of choice let's hear it #36735

Tom,
The new Grizzlys are not real sharp out of the box but they are light years ahead in the ease of sharpening compared to the previous Grizzlys.
It takes me less than 10 minutes to get one Grizzly 200 sticky shavin sharp.

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in reply to: Brass insert preventing failure? #35817

Kingwouldbe has many more kills than me but I do use this lethal arrow setup and will not use anything else.

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in reply to: Brass insert preventing failure? #35522

The brass insert probably does help with impact possiblly due to the softer brass taking a hit better than the harder aluminum. I think that is why they tend to bend just slightly rather than break on direct impact.
But…I think the external aluminum footing is definitely the strength factor. When it is glued in place covering the carbon shaft and the collar of the insert it acts as a bridge connecting the two with added strength.

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