[richard roop]

in reply to: Building that EFOC & UEFOC arrow #160290

FWIW; …………….. In answer to your actual question, there are a few ways to go.

Different steel or brass insert systems.

Cut to length Para-cord inside the shaft.

Fill the shaft with sand.

Remember that an arrow is a tool, so match the tool to the job. You might not use the same arrow for spot & stalk antelope as you would bear out of a tree stand.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Building that EFOC & UEFOC arrow #160285

John; Greetings and Salutations from S.E. Arizona.

Couple of things. ………….. (1) If there’s a pro shop that understands ‘Trad’ with-in a half day’s drive of you, it’s worth the time & coin to visit for help with tuning and if possible, shooting lessons to develop form.

(2) You cannot tune a bow better than your form is.  As your release, bow-arm & back tension (all the same thing) improve, the bow / arrow set-up can be fine tuned.

(3) Howard Hill, our most revered icon, was a big fellow with long arms. He determined that a 28″ draw was ideal and adjusted his stance & bow-arm to achieve it.

(4) Keep us posted on your progress and Good Luck !!!

[richard roop]

in reply to: New bow ……………………… #160245

You should be good anywhere between 60″ & 65″.  Too short and it can get kind of touchy to shoot & finger pinch. Too long and it an get unwieldy.

FWIW; ………….. Almost all of my bows are 60″ / 60 lbs @ 28 with a 29″ draw.  Several reasons. All of my bows shoot the same arrow, 2213 w/145 grn. point.  Saves on separate sets of arrows for one thing. For another, I can more better compare one bow to another.  Apples to apples.  And last but not least ……………. it limits the number of bows I can buy on that damn ebay site.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Public Land Pressures #160244

Here, it’s an endless parade of road hunters with compounds that can cover anything  within 100 yards of the two track

Generally a half mile in and I’ve got the place to myself.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Hello! #160219

Raymond;

Thanx for reminding me about T.J.s book. I’m  about due to re-read that one again.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Hello! #160193

I’m still jealous that you have a shop that understands single string.

Don’t know if you do Ebay or not but there’s a book, Shooting The Stickbow that is a must read for Traditional shooters by Anthony Camera that you can usually find in the $20 to $30 dollar range. Really good info !!!!

I recommend this book to anyone that is serious about shooting.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Hello! #160179

I envy you having a shop nearby that speaks ‘Trad’.  Our local shops are all about gears, gadgets & gizmos.

Cheap advice; If you possibly can, sign up for a series of lessons / coaching. Far easier to learn it right than to unlearn a bad habit and then learn it over correctly.  Trust me on this one.  Time & coin well spent.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Hello! #160175

Pat;

Greetings and Salutations from S.E. Arizona where we have frogs that can’t swim ’cause they’ve never seen water.

Don’t be shy about asking questions or for advice. We’ve all made a bunch of mistakes and sometimes even learn from them.

So ………….. What kind of bow are you getting ?? Hunting or target ???  I’m partial to classic recurves myself.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Finger Strain #160063

A whole bunch of years ago, there was a writer by the name of C.R. Learn. He shot a ‘Bowloc’ release before even the Freestyle folks were. It was a solid piece of some kind of hardwood with no moving parts. I believe that would have made it some kind of ledge release.  As I recall, he was handy enough with it to rove or hunt with it.

If the unthinkable should happen, I think that it would be preferable to hanging up the bow for good.

……………. or a thumb ring……………………. Thumb rings are cool.  I look really goofy when I try to shoot one but it’s still cool.

Anybody know what ever became of the above mentioned Bob Learn ??  He seemed like a pretty regular guy from his writings.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Finger Strain #160052

In the words of the great poet, singer & songwriter Dave Dudley ………. “If it feels good, do it…. If it hurts, just let it be.”

A couple of thoughts; Are you changing your elbow position when you go three under ???  That might put more strain on an already marginal joint.

and

Have you tried staying with split finger but changing your anchor point(s) to accomplish much the same thing as 3 under (closer point on or aiming right down the shaft) ????

FWIW; I used to shoot with Cal Vogt, many time National NFAA Bowhunter Div. Champion. As he gripped the string on his compound, split finger, he would do the Boy Scout Salute, thumb on little finger. He claimed that it put the tension on the outside back of the hand rather than on the fingers.  Maybe so …. maybe no ……….. but I never could beat him even with pins on my compound.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Small game hunting, Ace Hex Head or The Hammer..? #159955

Yeah, some of those old timers were really something. Sadly, a lot of our history is fading away.

If you can find video of Ben Pearson and / or Howard Hill it’s some neat viewing.  There’s a clip of Ben Pearson propped up in a speed boat, racing around a lake popping balloons floating on the water.  These guys knew how to have fun.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Target “Shed” #159954

What is this ‘rain’ of which you speak ?????      The old ones once spoke of water from the sky, but these were just tales to frighten small children.

Good lookin’ shed, though.

Question;  Does shooting into the side of the bale seem to work better than into the edge ??  Seems like it might stop arrows better but I’d worry about cutting the strings and making a real mess.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Small game hunting, Ace Hex Head or The Hammer..? #159730

Kees;

Google;    meet the champs wilhem brothers

It should come right up for you.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Small game hunting, Ace Hex Head or The Hammer..? #159729

Kees;

Happy to help. We have some really interesting history but sadly too many new shooters are only interested in arrow speed and where the ’14’ ring is on the 3D target.

Ok ……………… End of rant. If you’re not familiar with the Wilhelm Brothers, they were quite a pair. One of them due to a shoulder injury anchored center of chest. Phenomenal shots doing a lot of “Do not try this ……… EVER” stuff like shooting cigarettes out of each other’s mouths. If you can find a U Tube video titled Meet The Champs I’m pretty sure that you’ll watch it more than once.  I’m still trying to find out what they used for their ‘smoke arrows’ .  Off the chart ‘cool factor’.

[richard roop]

in reply to: Whatch Got Going 2022 #159725

Raymond (or anybody else )

Let me know if you’re going to visit. Mayhap we can get together and fling a few arrows. Safari Club International, not to be confused with the Dallas Safari Club, is just down the road from Tucson Mountain Park.  Desert Archers is based out of there with  an Outstanding archery range.  Just down the road the other way is the Sonoran Desert Museum.  Kind of a cross between a museum and an open air wildlife zoo.  Also well worth the visit, just not in the heat of the summer.  And, as long as I’m making shameless plugs, the nearby Coyote Pause Cafe has good food and it’s right across the street from the Tucson Mineral & Gem World if you’re into rocks & fossils & such.  Makes for a pretty full day or two.

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