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in reply to: New Broadhead Regulation for PA Hunters #8367
TuffHead had a lot of users in Pennsylvania before the change. I don’t know if they had any influence on the change but it is welcome . It is a good feeling to know that your equipment is now legal……Keep looking over your shoulder though… there might be a deer coming from behind.LOL:D:D
in reply to: New Broadhead Regulation for PA Hunters #62352Pennsylvania finally figured out the benefits of high mechanical advantage broadheads (http://www.tuffhead.com/education/formulas_mechanical_advantage.html )although it took some prodding. Thanks to all you prodders:D
Thanks Steve for posting and bringing
us up to date.
Steve and othersYour comments are appreciated. Any insights to tuning are great and may help the next person.
I added a comment line to the original post….:D
Doc Nock Not feeling any rain on my head:D 😀
Yes experimenting with FOC arrow can be very frustrating because of the many variables involved. You mentioned many one which is the bow. Most bowyers build their bow shelfs the same year after year.So while there are variables between manufactures i.e. bows are center shot,cut to center ,etc There is not as much variation within one company …so it is possible to compare apples with apples. Part of FOC arrow building education is determining the variables and how to compensate for them
Building FOC arrows in not only frustrating but time consuming and challenging. It can also be expensive like you mention.
At the end it can be very rewarding .
When I talk to people about FOC arrows I mention all this up front. I also tell them they should have goals in mind like how much FOC they are striving for which will determine the style of arrow and in some cases the brand of arrows they will have to work with . Once they establish goals that could look at a list like I have suggested and narrow down some variables . They can then purchase a few test arrows and start experimenting bare shafts a 1/4 inch at a time. Most know that the variables ..like bow design release,draw ,length arrow spine, arrow length,weight up front , have to be reckoned with
The purpose of the list is just to get people started .Give them a potential starting point. Maybe starting will not be so overwhelming. Even better yet maybe they will start.:D
Now ……did I mention that there are people that visit the TB site that actually like to do this stuff 😀 😀 It takes all kinds.:D
Bow type and Make ( example long bow, black widow)+ cari-bow , dryad orion, Chuck Jones all 3 piece long bows
Bow Length= 64″
Bow weight@ 28″= 55lb
Your draw length+ 28″
Arrow type ( material,brand,spine)Example carbon ,250 carbon express= carbon express 250
Arrow length (throat of nock to tip of shaft)=291/4
Feathers number and length = 3 right wing straight fletch 3″
Insert weight if applicable=100 Grain
Adaptor weight if applicable= 75 grn
Point weight=300 grn
Footing weight if applicable=25 grn
Total arrow weight=752 grn
FOC (as measured by AMO standard..measured throat of knock to end of shaft……tip not included)=32%
in reply to: Update on Larry Fischer vs The Bastard #57823Larry,Belinda and Family I know it feels like things are spinning out of control and crashing down around you….All things you cannot control……The main thing is you are still in the fight and battling the “Bastard”.
You guys are in our thoughts and prayers every day.
Joe and Janice Furlong
in reply to: noisy recurve #57726You guys are crazy LOL:D:D I think we scared “quiver full” away:D:D
in reply to: noisy recurve #56149quiverfull wrote: My new/old Howatt Hunter makes a creaking sound, like the string is rubbing in the string nocks or something. There is no lack of integrity of the bow itself, i.e.cracks etc. I intend to put some string groove silencers on soon, but I’m not sure they will help. Any ideas? ❓ JB
quiverfull
Have you made any headway determining what is causing noise on your bow??
in reply to: Trajectory & Weight #53964wojo14 If you are concerned about the 75 grain weight difference you can add a 75 grain woody weight between judo and arrow. I don’t like extra connections but on practice arrow for stumping it is not as critical as if on a hunting arrow.:D
in reply to: noisy recurve #53953quiverfull wrote: [quote=vintage archer]Some times the problem is the wax on the string ….When the string is pulled away from the limbs when drawing there is a noise from the waxed string lifting off of the string grooves on the limb.
Hard to say with out hearing the sound .Trying every suggestion should help locate the cause. Have fun wishing I was there I just love this sort of stuff LOL:D:D
Placing some masking tape on the limb over the string grooves on both limbs temporarily might tell if they are problem
So, wax on, wax off. Hai. When you say string grooves, should I include the grooves at the very tips where the loops go? That’ll be exciting with a 60# recurve! Maybe I’ll wait until my 24 year old son comes home from AK to help with that.
Tell you what, if it’s any cooler where you are, I might just bring it! I hate summer in GA, and it ain’t really even hot yet. Thanks, I will try this…JB
Quiverfull Yes it is confusing and funny when you think about it. wax on wax off I have seen the wax in string grooves cause a ripping sound or creak on more than one bow.
No you don’t have to worry about the knock groves where the loops go just the string groove in the limb. Some use mole skin in this area to eliminate string slap on release it also stops the creaking or ripping noise on the draw. Masking tape as temporary fix will tell you if that is problem area .
I dont thinks the weather is much better here LOL:D HOT and humid. Sorry:D
in reply to: noisy recurve #53580sorry double post
in reply to: noisy recurve #53579Some times the problem is the wax on the string ….When the string is pulled away from the limbs when drawing there is a noise from the waxed string lifting off of the string grooves on the limb.
Hard to say with out hearing the sound .Trying every suggestion should help locate the cause. Have fun wishing I was there I just love this sort of stuff LOL:D:D
Placing some masking tape on the limb over the string grooves on both limbs temporarily might tell if they are problem
in reply to: Compton Rendezvous #40211Plan to attend .I will not be vending. Plan on attending Dr.Ashby’s seminar held at !:00 Friday afternoon. Will take in Friday night activities as Dr Ashby will be the key note speaker.
Early Friday I plan on being at the TBM booth to get a hug from Robin . Looking forward to seeing TJ (no hugs thanks):D:D
The rest of weekend will be with family and friends.
Really looking forward to next weekend ,Started to get camper ready and loaded. We are hoping to be there Monday or Tuesday prior to the big weekend to help set up.
in reply to: Compton Rendezvous #40199Webmother wrote: T.J. and I will be there! We love going to the Compton Rendezvous. Stop by our booth and say hello.
IT IS AMAZING HOW THINGS CHANGE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS…. ROBIN WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HUGS:D:D
in reply to: Tillering Question. #36333Steve Graf wrote: Joe, you’re the black rhino guy? Very cool. Now you are the broadhead guy. What were you making before the Rhino bows
STEVE Yes I started the BLACK RHINO bows about 10 years ago ………before that I built custom bows under the name VINTAGE ARCHERY. I offered a recurve and 3 long bow models…I got into kids bows to help offset expenses at shows.It worked out so well I gave up custom bows. I was to slow building bows and maybe to particular to ever make a go at it…..I sold the BLACK RHINO to Chuck and Pat Jones about five years ago. Chuck helped me out when I owned the company and got slammed with demand . He glued up bows with my material and forms.It worked out well as he did that in his own shop…Later I sold out to him.Since Chuck and Pat purchased the company they have added more bow models including a new recurve model just this year .
Under Chuck and Pat The Black Rhino continues to be one of the premier kid’s bow being offered. They are shipped all over the world. I don’t have any ties to the company other than friendship with Chuck and Pat but still am proud of the company and the concept of making real shootable traditional bows for kids. Bows that they can be proud of.:D
If you have a passion for archery and have been involved with all the great archery vendors out there it is hard not to want to get involved again. I don’t take any responsibility for starting the broad head business but blame it on Dr Ashby and his writings :D.THE DOC MADE ME DO IT.:D:D That is what I told my wife 😀 Did I mention that I had never met or talked to the good DR.until after the first production run of the TuffHead. I did not need to I had all his teachings memorized.:D
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