[mudfish99]

in reply to: Intentional Shoulder Shot #39419

I just posted some pics of a couple of bucks, I recently submitted to the Ashby study. You can read the details, but the one buck that I shot through the shoulder blade dressed at 245#. The arrow severed the cranial vena cava, as well as nicking the brachiocephalic tree, it thereby severed the fourth rib and lodged in the opposite leg. No lungs were touched. The buck went approximately 150yds before collapsing, but offered a very poor blood trail. Internal hemorraging was massive.
The other buck was shot behind the shoulder and exited low behind the opposite leg. Both lungs were hit severing the pulmonary artery. Recovery within 50yds, blood trail excellent.
The difference? The first buck did not have an exit hole, consequently the blood trail was poor. Why? Large bucks have massive shoulder muscles, the broadhead must pass through the trapezius, the deltoideus, and either the infra or supraspinatous muscle, then through the scapula, next comes the cutaneus trunci, through the ribs and into the vitals.
To make a long story short. Both bucks are dead, but it was alot easier to recover the one with a ventral exit hole. If I have a choice, I’m going to tuck it in right behind the shoulder.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: More Whitetails for Study #39239

I shoot a 60# Robertson Stykbow, with carbon express heritage 250 arrows, Abowyer Brown bear head with 100 gr. insert. 21% FOC

First buck was 21 yds. broadside walking left to right. Good penetration with arrow exiting behind right elbow as seen in the picture. Blood trail was very good, and the buck piled up approximately 50 yds. from initial impact.

Second buck was 17 yds broadside standing. Shot was forward of where I wanted it to be, and entered through the right scapula(see picture), went through the cranial thorax, severed right rib number 4 and lodged under the skin of the right brachialus. The blood trail was very poor, and the buck ran approximately 150 yds.

There was no broadhead damage, nor was there arrow damage on either deer.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: Can someone explain this? #19432

I don’t think anybody will dispute the fact that most of us have been killing big game animals with some crazy set-ups and some not so crazy set-ups for a long time. I am old enough to remember when there were no compound bows, nor were there synthetic arrows. We all were just bowhunters. Much of Dr. Ashby’s data has been intuitive with traditional archers for a long time. As an example, look at Howard Hill’s broadhead design. A 3:1 ratio head with plenty of weight to it. A quartering away shot, one of my favorites, is primarily a soft-tissue penetration issue. One does not need a 600+gr arrow, 20+% FOC, and a single bevel broadhead to kill efficiciently with this shot. I think what most of us who ascribe or gravitate to Ashby’s data are those that are interested in the results when things go bad. What I mean by this is simply the fact that should your wayward arrow strike the humerous instead of the rib it is comforting to know you have a good chance of penetrating said bone and reaching the vitals. Thus we avoid wounding the animal and harvesting it as cleanly as possible.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: Dave's bull — Ashby performance report #18259

Nice animal! Would love to submit my own lethality report but don’t know how to get the pictures to load. Any help with that little dilemma would be appreciated.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: Adjustable nock point? #61147

Thanks for the directions, going to give it a lash right now. I will let you know how I like it.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: You Favorite Broadhead and why ? #56933

I gotta vote for the Abowyer Brown Bear 175gr. single bevel(left). Easy to deal with right out of the package, high mechanical advantage, and of course mucho devastation upon contact with the critter you are trying to get personal with.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: Ground Pounding It! #56609

Nothing more exciting than hunting a whitetail from the ground! Will definitely get the ticker going.

[mudfish99]

in reply to: The Running Woodsman #53551

You ever noticed how a robin, or say a carolina wren, cock their heads, as if to listen, right before they grab an insect. I’ve always wondered if they hear the little suckers or cock their heads to get a better bead on them.

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in reply to: Grizzly tough! #49225

Very new member, but have been a traditional archer all my life(not that this is relevant). Having said that, I was wondering if “sharpster” would elaborate on “stropping” a single bevel head with cardboard? Do you use the corrugated end of the cardboard or strop down the smooth length of the cardboard? As an afterthought, I personally shoot the Abowyer Brown Bear(left). Mucho devastation!

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