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in reply to: Recurve or longbow ? #32447
Wolf,
As the pros said, get what feels right. Dave mentioned “deflex-reflex”, which I call Hybrid. It’s something to consider, but find some trad shops in your area, read some reviews, do some research. The more comfortable you are, the better you will shoot. The better you shoot, the less poundage you will need. Anyway, I defer the rest to the experts. I just wanted to get my $0.02 in as I posted the same thread (just without the shoulder injury) a few months back and had some great ideas come on through. Hope it helps. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: What if …? #32437Smithhammer wrote: “you are really hunting with that?”
Too funny! I just had someone say that to me not too long ago. That person was using a compound. We met after the hunt (it was hogs). Both of us had seen some. Neither one of us had one. Only difference is that I had all my arrows, he did not. I’m sure you can figure it out. Though what upsets me a little is that I am seen with my longbow, I will automatically be “at fault” in the eyes of the non-hunters, and definitely in the glowing beady eyes of the anti-hunter.
So, that brings me to the next quote that:
Smithhammer wrote: …that it is technology and ever greater contraptions that make us “better” hunters.
I really wish this could get cleared up because it’s just the opposite. I guess the issue is that people define a “hunter” as someone who kills. This past year I had several deer just outside my “kill zone”. Had I been a better hunter, I would have some venison in the freezer now. The other option it to extend my zone. This could be done by A) practice or B) gizmos. Either way, in the second scenario, I am becoming a better “shooter” not “hunter”. I guess people need to re-think what a “hunter” is. At any given moment, I can, within 15 minutes, walk to any of 3 supermarkets which are open 24/7. I don’t NEED to hunt. I CHOOSE to. IMHO the difference between hunters and gatherers is not meat and veggies. Look at folks in the “meat” isle of the grocery store. Do they really look that different while picking out their steak than they did while picking out their head of lettuce? They are gathering. Meanwhile, I could (haven’t, but could 😆 ) go to the woods with a bow and come home with a bunch of morels. “Hunting” trip successful? You Betcha. Any meat in the freezer? Nope.
Well, enough beating a dead (insert animal / vegetable of choice). Hope all is well here. Again, INHO, it is easy to preach, but much harder to lead by example. Sad part is, in my first example, I would bet that the other hunter thought I was the loser since I didn’t even get a shot. I think the opposite for exactly the same reason. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Thumb rings #31678J,
You could be right. I am not an expert on old Syrian or Mongolian bows (or any for that matter 😆 ). Actually, I had the same question as you, but when I looked up shooting with a thumb ring on YouTube, it was apparent that the arrow was on the “wrong” side, so I never went further. Still, I wonder if it could be done [well]. Check out the video below…
Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: witch is beter #31318My guess is whatever works for you and whatever your arrows are matched to. Self bows are sometimes not cut at all, but can be shot very well instinctively. Best thing I can say is try out as many setups as you can to see what works for you. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Thumb rings #31238J,
From my understanding, these rings are for a specific type of bow (mongolian, horse, etc). They cannot really handle the puondage of long/recurve bows. Also, the shooting style when using a thumb ring has the arrow on the opposite side of the bow from the archer, as opposed to facing the archer like with long/recurve bows (much like a Japanese Yumi). That being said, I don’t actually see why it couldn’t be used. I mean, if you can flip a coin in the air, you can learn how to use this release. Maybe someone out there has already done it. If so, I too would love to hear about it. Be well.
Alex
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TBMADMIN wrote: After Dave’s dilemma I just randomly checked Amazon.com for T.J.’s books. Holy Cow! The Traditional Bowhunter’s Handbook is listed for hundreds of dollars! 😯 Used copies for $35 and up into the $100 range. That’s crazy! We sell that book for $25. I hope no one here has ever paid those high prices. They are listed by outside sellers (not Amazon directly) who probably paid $25 or less. Don’t get taken! I think the only books that I know of that go for that much money might be old Jay Massey books that are out of print and hard to find. Sheesh! Okay, back to work. 😆
OK, I have to quote my favorite author here…
Douglas Adams wrote: “When you’re cruising down the road in the fast lane and you lazily sail past a few hard-driving cars and are feeling pretty pleased with yhourself and then accidentally change down from fourth to first instead of third thus making your engine leap out of your hood in a rather ugly mess, it tends to throw you off your stride…”
This is pretty much how I felt after reading Robin’s post. I have had that book in my “wish list” for like ever. I didn’t want to drop the few dollars on it until I exhausted my “cheaper” options. What gets me is not that I didn’t see it cheaper here, but that I never made the connection. Author, name, affiliation, etc. Then Robin writes about “T.J.” and all of the sudden I have one huge DUH!!!
OK, so I’m not the brightest bulb on the string. Whatcha gonna do?
Be well.
Axel
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Dave,
Not to beat a dead horse, but it is very important to hear the “other side” of things. I cannot speak for others, but I quickly get caugth up in the great deals and other stuff. Sometimes we “assume” (everyone knows where that gets us) that everyone is playing by the rules and everyone is being FAIRLY taken care of. So, there is no reason (INHO) to appologize. If Amazon did something wrong, shame on them. I will be ordering “from the source” on this one. If they keep doing it, they will lose my business all together. It may not be much, but I am sure I’m not alone. Be well.
Alex
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Dave,
Just looked it up myself, and they are, in fact offering it. I am going to PM you a screen-shot. As much as I like Amazon, if they are doing something underhanded, I will be the first to let them know my business only goes to those with honor. Let us know. In the mean time, Elkheart was on my wish-list for the kindle. I will NOT buy it unless I hear from you. Be well.
Alex
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“Longbows in the Far North” by Don Thomas… That’s the one I was thinking of in my other post. And thanks for the freebie. My kindle is filled with them. Another one that comes up that is similar is: “Camping and woodcraft; a handbook for vacation campers and for travelers in the wilderness” Horace Kephart. Might download that too. But it’s $1.99. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: What if …? #30222I don’t think we need to look at mythical or extinct creatures to have an appreciation as to what we need to carry out there. Anyone who has hunted wild boar with a stick ‘n string from the ground will attest to not only the armor these beasts have (making shot placement and equipment in top shape mandatory), but the terror of even a 100# porky charging you, let alone a po’d 350#er with half an arrow sticking out of it.
I also remember reading about bowhunting brown bear in Alaska (forget what book it was. It was the Dr. who hunted Alaska and Russia. I’m sure it’s on the book thread). 800# of po’d bear 15 yards away from you. Is that the time to think “maybe I should have given that FOC thing a look-see prior to coming out here”.
Lastly, and probably most important INHO, it is owed to the game we chase, not just for OUR well being. It goes to the well being of hunting. When a non-hunter sees a groundhog / woodchuck running around with an arrow sticking out of it, the hunter was not in danger, but hunting sure will be. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Review of 2" Rayzr Feathers… #302032Blade,
As is painfully obvious, I have little to no experience, but I remember reading a quote that might somewhat answer your question. It basically said that, “at traditional bowhunting distances, if the wind will affect your arrow flight, it’s probably too windy to be hunting”. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Trail cams #26345Monk,
Hope this link works, but there was another similar thread recently.
https://www.tradbow.com/members/cfmbb/messages.cfm?threadid=AB80EC00-1422-1DE9-EDC96BCC24EA9DD1
I have a Primos Truth 35. Got it on Amazon. Was like $75. Takes decent pictures. If you like it (I think there are some samples on the other thread), you could probably get 2 for the price of some higher-end cameras. Check out the link. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Coues Deer Hunting? #24805Dave,
Definitely a win. Congratulations. Just have a small bone to pick with you on the issue. Unless I missed it here, it seems like a golden opportunity was missed to include others (like me) in on the advocating process. As cyberscout said, next time, drop a line. These forums are a great source of information, and that is info I would have loved to have. Unfortunately (and I really do mean that), I am on the east coast. It wouldn’t make much sense for me to join western organizations. But I would definitely help out if I could.
Adirondackman plans a trip out (BTW, if you’re serious, PM me, would love to share the ride, expenses, scouting, etc). What a perfect time to join the petition and say “I have $XXX.XX to spend. If you want it, here’s my system of values…”. Money talks. I wish common sense did, but it don’t (at least not often). Until I convince the wife that AK or WY is the place to be, I am stuck “living here in Allentown”. And yes, they’re closing all the factories down. But on the brighter side, we have a Sands Casino where Bethlehem Steel used to be. 🙄
Anyway, glad to hear that we have a place where the chase if a little more “fair”. Good job. I just humbly ask that you include some of us “newbies” in on the good fight. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: And It Starts Again #24785gmccloskey wrote: I’ll do it again this year and love every minute of it!
Amen!
in reply to: Minimum poundage to harvest whitetail #23681Loupnoir,
Let me pass the question back to you with these situations:
a) You have a 40# bow (as DWC said, legal here in PA for deer). You shoot regularly. You have gotten to the point where you can draw, anchor, visualize the exact spot you want to hit, visualize the arrow’s flight, release and follow through 100% of the time. You are hitting “vitals” (size of your group) every time at 20 yards. On top of that, you have an arrow perfectly matched for your gear and shooting style. It flies like a dart, perfect. Your broadhead is so sharp that it splits molecules of air on its way to the target.
b) You have an 80# bow. You hardly ever go out, even to get a few shots in. You can barely pull this beast back, and when you can, you shake like a leaf on a windstorm. Your arrows are all different brands. Not one of them is consistent, even at 10 yards. Your broadheads are so dull, they couldn’t cut water.
Since the second situation has double the weight of the first, would you consider it a more ethical choice?
IMHO, just about any bow that is legal for hunting will do the job, so long as it is in the hands of an ethical HUNTER (one who keeps his/her gear in top shape, cares for the game, doesn’t take shots outside his/her comfort zone, etc). If 45# is something you are comfortable with, make it happen. Do a little reading, especially about FOC, and other studies. Once you get the facts, make your own decisions and experiment with them. Get out there and shoot. Most of all, enjoy. Love what you do. The fact that your first question here is about being humane, to me, means your heart and mind are in the right place, so go with it. I look forward to your stories and pictures. Be well.
Alex
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