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Dude, I got your back bro…. if worst comes to worst, I will sharpen you a DZ and you’ll be ready to go, just give me a little time to get’um to you.
I have not shot the stos, however it looks like a good head, I killed a boat load of critters with a Zuwicky delta, easy to sharpen and definitely in the top 5 broadheads.
I would go with sharper first, even with a head that was not as good as the stos.
I would love to get together, shoot and sharpen some broadheads, oh and smoke some cigars 8)
That’s a Grand Hubano getting ready to get light…… thanks Mark
in reply to: Shoulder Shots 2 #34424Shot placement is critical for a good result.
The results I’m looking for lol 😛
in reply to: Shoulder Shots 2 #34408The wild boar is tougher and can take a lot more punishment and keep going than a deer.
Shot placement is even more critical with boars, as deer are thin skinned and not built with that heavy of a structure.
This view is from an elevated position
Again quartering away offers the easiest way into the vitals, however can you see how far the spine drops down as it go’s between the shoulder blades bring the kill zone lower than a deer, aiming for the opposite shoulder is the best shot here and will get both lungs.
This view is at eye level and offers the best shot angle with the least amount of resistance
As you can see above a slight quartering at shot still has the vitals open, but shot placement is even more critical as the hog turns toward the shooter, also can you see that the top 1/3 is no vitals and you really must be at least down that far to get into the vitals.If a hog turns at the shot the bone can close the kill zone in a split second.
Some times it can be hard to till the exact angle the animal is in as they are constantly moving and not holding still like these pic’s for you to take your time.
This is a no shotin reply to: Shoulder Shots 2 #34380With out a doubt the quartering away shot offers the biggest and easiest way into the vitals.
This is more of a realistic view for the majority who hunt from trees.
This is more of a level ground view and if the deer takes a step and brings the humerus back it will cover some of the vitals, some times taking a step at the shot and spinning.
As you can see the bones are starting to cover up the vitals and this shot should be avoided, however some times this position happens after the broadside shot has been released and now your hunting tackle will be put to the test
For those who hunt from above, the scapula can come into play vary quickly if the deer reacts at all to the shot
in reply to: Shoulder Shots 2 #34362Just for the record, I will gladly take a bet on those numbers of total shots.
It’s pretty likely that I can let them count their small game too! Over just the last quarter century the number of test shots now numbers in the multiple thousands … not including the 627 bow-killed big game animals and the uncounted total of smaller game taken during that same period! Now, I don’t have an actual record of the kills for the quarter century before I started keeping records, but that’s a few hundred more bow-kills to add in too.
The GOOD BOOK says; give honor where honor is do, it aint bragging if it’s facts
Some of the self proclaimed whitetail gurus and wabbit killers, can’t hold a candle to the hunting record or the documentation of what Doctor Ed Ashby has done and his selfless sharing of his findings to the hunting community.
I for one, stand up and applaud you Sir.
Now let’s keep Edu-ma-cating the uninformed; as has been stated ten thousand times if the arrow go’s exactly where I have shot it, I can use some really light tackle and almost any broadhead with in reason will kill, however according to ALL study’s for kill and lost game reports there is around a 50% hit lost ratio.( I don’t care if you don’t believe that it’s that high, until you do a study to disprove it, it is the facts right now, done by game department all over north America )
It is my belief that we as the conservators of the wild animals must do everything to make as clean and as quick a kill as we possibly can, this is our duty and responsibility.
It’s not about “we have killed a million animals this way” and “it has worked for hundreds of years” that’s just flat out stupid…… when there is proof that with just minor adjustments in equipment we can increase our killing effectiveness.
in reply to: Instructions for building a composite arrow. #33185Bro… it’s hard to get instructions on such a cutting edge subject as it’s all pretty new.
I would start here, then do your own experimentation
Internal Footings
https://www.tradbow.com/members/cfmbb/messages.cfm?threadid=736A1B20-1422-1DE9-ED06A7419D523D48This is some of the stuff I have cooked up
I started out just doing a single footing, then I went to double footing, then I went to triple footing, and I am still looking for more.
In Doc. Ashbey’s internal footing with a hard wood dowel looks to be the best of both worlds, as he said in his article my 13″ footing over my carbon arrow with another 5″ footing over that has only moved the WEAK spot farther back.
I think as we keep thinking and tinkering we will come up with a ground braking idea that will be the ultimate arrow.
Maybe something like a stainless steel for shaft with a carbon tapered back end, who knows what the mind can conceive.
I have hit the limit on my skinny shafts at 28% efoc even if I throw another 200 grans it only moves my efoc vary little.
It looks like I have to buy some new shafts and keep cooking, I want to do a 650-750grain arrow with a 30-35% efoc with internal and external footing,:shock: AKA armor piercing arrows.
As you can see I have more to learn, this arrow is 28.25″ has a carbon shaft with 13″ over that and another 5″ over that, with a total arrow weight of 810 grains, the second arrow from the top has a part of it still stuck in the chest of the hog as it rolled on the shaft braking both ends off.
in reply to: Shoulder Shots 2 #32148Here’s the deal, the law says you can shoot crap if you want to, because fish and game has no clue of what is an effective arrow broadhead set up, lot’s of folks think surely fish and game would MAKE us shoot tackle that is sufficient to kill at least most of the time.
Then theirs the folk that think because the cave man shot crap for a living, surely his tackle was sufficient, and still there’s the folks that think “I have killed xxxx amount of animals and no ones got a better set up than me.
Then still there are the folk that say this is the way it’s always been done…..
The stubborn & foolish still say the earth is flat regardless of tons of evidence to the contrary.
Colorado division of wildlife is a perfect example of being stuck in the stone age ( except there tag fees are ahead of there time 😡 ) according to there hunting regulations you can hunt Elk & Moose with a 35lb bow and a 200 grain arrow with an expandable broadhead, yep! it’s a 100% legal bow and arrow set up.
I can shoot this set up and there is nothing you can do about it, I also could shoot this set up out to 30-40 yards and there is nothing you can do about it.
Now most of us would say that set up is an abomination; why? it’s legal; most know there is no doubt this set up will fail more than it will succeed, a-ha! 💡 that’s the point.
The ignorant and stubborn just want to shoot what they want to shoot, regardless of the amount of times it might fail, and no amount of information will change there minds ( that’s sad, but it’s true )
I am not a kool-aid drinker, just the opposite, I had to prove what the Doc. was dispensing, however I was getting the same result he was getting before I knew what it was, I just stumbled on the results, as I am always looking for the deadliest set up with the limitations we have chosen.
The Traditional Bowhunting community owes a huge debt to Doctor Ashbey, especially the 40lb shooters as his latest study proves; you also can breach bones should you come in contact with them.
This is one of the recent test volunteers for the Ashbey arrow study.
2 blade blind mans blood trail.
Volunteer #2
It’s about SHARP for a blind mans blood trail, if you struggle with what is sharp, let Ron at KME show you the way.
in reply to: Shoulder Shots 2 #31707Doc. You rock 😀
I’m not scared of no shoulder lol
60lb longbow 800 grain arrow 28% efoc 300 grain El Grandyin reply to: Wintercamp / Pics #18853Right on brother, that is to cool ( no pun intended )
What where you hunting ?
in reply to: How much bow and arrow for hogs? #44594If I where you, I’d head east to Texas, just pay for the trespassing fee and I bet you could find lots of good hunting there.
As Far as California go’s finding a good place to hunt is like finding gold.
in reply to: More Whitetails for Study #44583By the way vary nice bucks mudfish 😀
in reply to: More Whitetails for Study #44580Dave I don’t see the hide pic showing the exit from the inside out.
The one above I think is the scapula and hole.
Hope I’m not seeing things
in reply to: More Whitetails for Study #39131Mudfish more info please.
What weight bow? arrow? etc…
How far was the shot? etc..
How far did it go? etc…
How good was the blood trail? etc….
Any other info you can think of sharing.Nice buck my friend
in reply to: How much bow and arrow for hogs? #9927Hiram wrote: Hey King, you should change to dipping snuff! or do you do that while your not smoking? I dip, and do not want to quit, It helps me get my shooting eye right! I must admit to any kids that are reading this, do not start any of these nasty costly habits. Stick to just hunting LOL:D King you are a killer man! More pics.
I use-a chew, I gave that up, now just the cigars, no cigarettes.
I use my cigar as a wind detector, it works
The FRIDGE 😯 I want more than the minimum lol
in reply to: How much bow and arrow for hogs? #8940Um! I don’t think they can smell smoke…… um!…. it’s natural.
No, they can smell smoke and you, I smoke cigars all the time while hunting, it don’t matter, just keep the wind in your face.
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