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in reply to: FOC, Tieing the threads together #60207
Troy, never mind — it’s over your head. :P:lol:
In fact I was eating ice cream at the time and it makes me dizzy …
in reply to: It's getting CLOSE! #60199Steve — Does anyone kill turkeys with a season starting that late? Hens are already nesting before that, and it seems almost pointless to hold a season that late???
Scout — I too have always subscribed to the “bigger is better” theory for turkey heads and used huge 3-blades. But that didn’t keep ’em from blowing through and too many hit birds escaping. This year, after seeing enough big game animals’ internal soft tissues homogenized by a single-bevel screwing its way through, that’s what I plan to use. But frankly, in the case of turkeys, assuming a very sharp broadhead, arrow placement is everything since penetration is rarely a problem and the vitals are so small. For me, turkey hunting is more a rite of spring than a serious hunt. Of course I work my tail off, lose sleep, etc., but whether or not I kill a bird is way down the list behind getting back up the mountain as the snow goes out to see what went on during winter, searching for drop tines, morels and remains of winterkilled elk, watching for the first bear sign, seeing pairs of Canada geese doing their daylight ritual honking circles, gradual green-up, the cacophony of shafted flickers … all great, important, soul-renewing stuff I’d miss if not for the wild turkey chase. Since it’s a vocal hunt, it’s also the next best thing to elk for fun. Now, if I can just get the damaged shoulder back online in time.
in reply to: FOC, Tieing the threads together #59582Good point, David. I will clarify that proposal here for our beloved Webmother’s return (she’s traveling this week, methinks, and I don’t know all the Magic Switcheroo tricks and too lazy have lost too many brain cell to learn): Can we add Troy’s excellent compilation of FOC etc. links to the Ashby Library, por favor? All those great cartoons and photo-toons are worth saving for posterity! Certainly it could be a “sticky” on this forum, handier, but I’m thinking it should be right there with all the other good stuff. Of course it’s all liberal tree-hugger socialism anyhow, right? I mean, who in their right mind would put so much thought and effort and concern into wanting to consistently kill animals as fast and humanely as possible, thereby reducing–the goal is eliminating–wounded and lost animals while enhancing hunter ethics within and hunter image beyond, while increasing our bring-home-the-meat aka “success” ratio? Better to just keep doing things like we always have, else we might fall off the edge of the flat earth. IMHO, natch 😈
in reply to: what do your arrows cost? #59512Wexbow — What’s your favorite Irish whiskey? My wife is part and we hope to visit someday … when I win the lottery.
NZlongbow — Man, that’s rough. If you don’t want a fancy finish, you can order perfectly good finished arrows (minus broadheads) from several reputable makers here in the U.S. for $150 to $200. Priority mail to NZ should be that much since arrows don’t weigh that much … and you’d come out WAY cheaper than what you say you’re paying now. For $70 each, heck I’ll make ’em for you and pay the postage to NZ. 😛
in reply to: FOC, Tieing the threads together #59505Add my kudos, please. But I’m worried about Doc Ed … while some of us age and revert to a second childhood, from Ed’s posts here lately it seems he’s reverted, devolved as it were, all the way back to his Big Animal deep ancestry. 😛
in reply to: Bowhunting Area 51 #59502Cary — No mo hickory. In fact just the opposite. My hickory days marked the first opening of my eyes to what makes arrow penetration work. I’d read Dr. Ashby’s Natal Studies from which I’d learned about heavy arrows and two-blade heads, and in fact shot plumb through two elk, a bull and a cow, two years in a row, using the same arrow: 748 grains total with wimpy little 125 points. The third year I destroyed that point (Wolverine) when it hit a bull square on in the shoulderbent over in the middle, broke, and bounced out. Only later did I learn about the rest of the formula: EFOC and strong single-bevels. So my new rule for a few years now, which has killed every elk and other animal I’ve used it on, is 650 grains minimum arrow weight and I try to hold it to no more than 700 grains since I shoot only 53# … lightest possible shaft to handle the heaviest possible weight up front. So this new woody experiment uses Sitka spruce, light and strong, which will still give me over 650 grains total and high FOC if not EFOC. If I were shooting more bow weight, like King and a few others here, I’d shoot more arrow weight. Cheers, dave
in reply to: shooting hours per week #58386TK — When I was young, I belonged to an archery club that had a nice outdoor roving range and an indoor range in the large basement of an old building. We had weekly shoots and always there was friendly but informal competition. Everyone knew who the best shots were so there was no need to be overly formal about it. And back then the compound ALD (arrow launching device) was more than a decade from being invented, so we all shot recurves or longbows (in fact, at that time, recurves really dominated). There was no such thing as a league. Which is to say, IMHO, the sort of “competition” that puts you with folks you don’t know and some of whom are bound to be insecure jerks, has just never had a place in my idea of happy archery and bowhunting. Or life for that matter. With the internet, and sites such as this, it’s now an unimaginably more social thing than any of us back then could ever have imagined. We all, to one degree and another, were loners and liked it that way. So the internet today is great in that it gives us a way to reach out and find friends both coming and going; that is, folks who have questions can hook up with folks who have answers, which is a huge leg up. But to go out and shoot with strangers in a rigid competitive situation and most are wheely guys who know subconsciously that we are having a lot more fun than they are, too often will try to make US feel inadequate. I’d shoot 8 yards in my house if I were desperate for a winter place and had no other choice than mixed ALD and trad events. But I”m a grumpy old man and never a very good compromiser even when I was young. All I’m trying so sloppily to say is, you don’t need them if they’re not adding anything positive to your archery experience. And yes, the elastic cords are excellent exercise devices, just boring as hell. Dave
in reply to: Who Hunts Alone Most of the Time? #58201Pewanogo — Well said!
in reply to: Bowhunting Area 51 #57023Carey — I can vouch that the 300 will do precisely what the 225 does, only even better. 😀 What I’m hoping to find out this Sept. is what the 300 will do to an elk when it’s walking point for a wood shaft alone, rather than reinforced in a carbon shaft with 225 grains of brass internals. 😯
in reply to: Bowhunting Area 51 #55805King — “Killer Cortez”? You must be a fan of your neighbor Neil Young. 😀
in reply to: Helle knife kit #55802Fatty (or do you prefer Tony?) — I pre-cut the handle pieces, both wood and antler, to roughly the size I wanted them, make sure the flat sides were absolutely true, sanded the handle tangs to rough them up a bit, cleaned all contact sides with acetone, and used a two-tube expoxy I had around for bowmaking — can’t recall the name but I think it had “13” in it, and it’s too cold (0 this morning) to go out to the shed and find it right now. Glue and clamp, nice long drying period, then a belt sander upside down to do the final rough shape, a bit of filing, finish sanding, then finished with clear epoxy. Not counting the drying time, I doubt I have 30 minutes in either knife. I’ve also made antler handles by grinding down the tang to a point, pre-drilling a hole through the center of the piece of antler, filling the hole with epoxy and driving the tang into the handle. If the tang is long, this makes a sturdy knife; if it’s short, I don’t recommend it. With your kit parts, my method then would be to forget the rivet and use epoxy to attach the handles. Or return it and buy a finished knife. 8) In general I’m not a fan of kits–knives, bows, leather stuff, nothing.
in reply to: Rattlesnake Backed Bama Osage Expedition! #55127Rip — For years I turned my nose up at skins, and darned if I know why. More recently I’ve put them on two Shrews and had them right in the faces of many elk and deer and never once did glare cause a problem. Skins are great camo, so long as they’re not covered with a glossy finish. My favorite is cottonmouth, but diamonback is also gorgeous. While I’m sure you can abuse a bow sufficiently to cause the skins to start flaking off, I’ve not had that problem. It’s a big investment, either in time and labor, or money, but worth it for a bow you consider a keeper. Nice pics, nice bow. Dave
in reply to: Bowhunting Area 51 #55123King — You think pig hunting is good in Area 51, someday you should check out Area S4 — outta this world! :shock::P
in reply to: Bowhunting Area 51 #54740King — I am livid with envy!!! 😛 Not only of your hunting prowess but of your weather. 😀
Every bowhunter should watch these videos, particularly the second one. 😀
in reply to: bear mag 48 #53730John, each to his own tastes but I’d go with a Grayling era for all Bear purchases. I have a 52″ Kodiak Magnum (1968) and it has zero hand shock. I doubt the shorter 48″ has much either, since it’s such a radical recurve. Great turkey bows if you get a light enough weight that you can hold at full draw for a while.
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