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  • David Petersen
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      I agree with everything Moebow has to say, except the final sentence. Exceptions make the rule. But with the right arrows (heavy) and broadheads (heavy) you certainly don’t need a heavy bow. So far as longbow vs. recurve, with the advent of deflex-reflex longbow limbs, most of the advantages of the recurve are history, with great little longbows down to 52″ (like Shrew)that don’t stack and are as forgiving as much longer Hill style (straight) longbows, so that mostly it comes down to personal preference.

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        Alex — I’m home and all book orders went into the mail this morning. So far as field dressing elk and elk hunting in general, check out the CO Dept. of Parks and Wildlife website, which has both those topics on videos you can stream. In fact they have an entire “Online elk hunting university” course, free. It’s not exactly the way I handle elk but a real good primer. And while all the elk hunting is with rifle, you’ll still learn a lot. If don’t own a bugle, don’t buy one. If you do own a bugle, give it to someone you don’t like. 😛 Cow call very sparingly and hunt elk as you would whitetails (not including tree stands), have no great expectations beyond a nice camping trip in the Rockies, and you’ll have a “successful” hunt no matter what.

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          Welcome to tradbow.com, bowhunter81. I just returned from a trip north including a few hours exploring the Oregon Trail above Farson in WY. While there were metal trade points, those in the photo above don’t look like any I’ve seen and appear to be “home made.” And what would be the most plentiful source of scrap metal scattered in the wake of the white invasion of the West? I’d say both barrel hoops and wagon-wheel rims … plus maybe the odd lost or discarded shovel and other tools. I’d be interested to know what sorts of tools the Indians used to cut, shape and sharpen this scrap into broadheads, and where they got them.

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            Justin — I won’t enter the nutritional discussion, but will say that LeRue wrote some good and informed books but much of his info was second hand … from true researchers like Geist. In my books, and while I liked LeRue’s work, there is no comparison so far as knowledge between the two, with Val Geist way on top, in another whole class in fact. And too, another top-end bio friend of mine is fond of saying “Bergmann’s rule isn’t a very good rule.” Canids are a classic example of where it fails, with the farthest north species being the tiny Arctic fox. IMHO, it makes sense in lots of cases but leaves a lot of room to differ as well. About diet–which must include naturally occurring minerals in the soil and thus forage, when we’re talking about cervids–I can comment re N. American elk “subspecies” insofar as Geist and other respected elk experts feel certain that if you took a sample population of Yellowstone elk and plopped them down in central CA, and took another sample of Tule’s elk from CA and put them in CO, in a few generations the Tule would be big as Yellowstone and the Yellowstone dwarfed to Tule size. Which is to say that nutrition is a major player in size and can’t be ruled out. It’s all fun.

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              I went throuhg an ABS Ashby phase and killed elk slick with ’em. But then so did I with Brown Bear, Tusker Concord, Tuffhead and others. Back when I used the ABS it came only in screw-in, so no way to increase weight with an adapter as you can with the Tuffhead. It was also very hard and the edges chipped on test shots through fresh elk scapula, though very minor. I used to say the BB was the best single-bevel head for the money because it was basically an ABS design (which, like the Tuffhead, is basically a Steel Force design but with much cleaner ferrule) but not so hard and much cheaper. But in the end I can only repeat what I said before here–that right now IMHO the Tuffhead is best and better than the ABS even if price isn’t considered (though the ABS is superb), and the redesigned Grizzly now promises to be the best single-bevel for the money. One thing to consider (among a million other things) is that the thicker heads–ABS, BB, Tuffhead, Steel Force) have a wider bevel shelf which provides more torque and bone-splitting power than does thinner blades like the Grizzly. This all of course is simply one man’s–not opinion, but in my somewhat extensive testing and elking experience. There are SO many excellent double-bevel heads available today, it gets really complicated.

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                Hiya Alex, and welcome here. Yes, you can buy DIY for elk in most CO units, esp. on the West Slope, which I would recommend over the Front Range but maybe I’m biased. A bit over $500 for either sex elk, or half that for a cow tag. While I can’t think of any books on DIY elking, per se, there are lots of good books and articles on elk hunting, and TBM has over the years run at least a few DIY articles, which I’m sure Robin, our beloved Webmother, will soon provide links to here. Otherwise, it’s just camping and hunting. My first advice is always the same: talk to the FS and DOW folks in any area you’re considering hunting in, to find out where you can go to get away from the damned ATVs. Even a short backpack in to camp can make a huge difference in your experience and hunting luck. Later in the month is more pleasant and productive than early. Enjoy, Dave

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                  Fallguy — IMHO there is no broadhead currently available that compares to the Tuffhead. I am curious about the new Grizzlies and posted this thread to let folks know about them primarily as a “public service” because they promise to be a superior head at a bargain price, and lots of us need all the bargains we can find. But I’m sure I’ll be sticking with the Tuffhead … again, IMHO. Dave

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                    Hammer — You’re a hoot, as always. That’s why I always pack a bunny grenade.:D

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                      in reply to: Evening dog walk #52272

                      Hiram — I’m sitting in Bondurant, WY, just south of Jackson Hole, before heading into the park tomorrow in hopes of seeing grizzly and/or wolf kill elk calves (an old hobby), in the home of an old friend who grew up on a WY sheep ranch and she agrees with Kirk, as do my observations and many talks with biologists … domestic sheep pretty much put an end to all things wild, except predators, and the sheep herders take care of that. Right now this place is overrun with Uinta ground squirrels because the fed trappers came in and killed all the coyotes off the adjacent public land last winter to “clear the way” for grazing this summer.

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                        Prowler — A bunny is a lot harder to hit than a grizzly! Congratulations.

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                          in reply to: SBD bowstrings? #44016

                          Fellers — I use the standard 8-strand SBD string and the center serving fits most arrow nocks perfectly. For recurves you can order the servings below the end loops with a special cushioning wrap (couple bucks extra, best I recall) that prevents string slap and also reduces string shock to the limbs. That’s what I did for the K-Mag.

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                            in reply to: Evening dog walk #43162

                            Brennan– No, they are very fancy high-bred horses in fact, pastured on a ranch across the valley from us. I’ve seen this for at least 30 years, if not often, with elk getting in with horses and even cows. If the horses were the least aggressive they would easily run the elk off, but they don’t seem to know the elk aren’t white-butted horses. You’ll also hear plenty of true stories about rutting bulls approaching people on horseback (and more than a few get killed for this mistake), apparently thinking the loud hoof strikes and thumps are other elk. You never know what animals are likely to get along well under favorable circumstances …

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                              Seldom– your avatar photo makes you look a lot like Ed Abbey! And your name sounds vaguely familiar. Small world filled with coincidence, I guess. 😛 Even the old blue truck in the background sure resembles the one Ed and I used to cruise around the LaSals above Moab in. Like this July 4, 1987 …

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                                Cigars and tequila shooters!

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                                  in reply to: SBD bowstrings? #42894

                                  M — Yes. I have SBD on all of my bows including the K-Mag, for quite a while now. Flawless, so far as I can tell. However, I would carefully inspect the limbs and nocks and tips for any hairline cracks, etc., and use a FF-type string only on perfect bows. Mine is a ’68 model.

                                  Stretching update: These strings are advertised not to stretch, but they do stretch. Just not so much or for so long as most other materials. Even steel cable will stretch some, because it’s twisted and the twists tighten under pressure, increasing length. It’s hard to get too excited about something as simple as a bowstring, but these are the best I’ve ever used.

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