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  • Raymond Coffman
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      Jerry

      How far are these slope tgts? Maybe they’re confusing your sighting eye do to the way it looks if near 20yds ? It is probably mostly hip / form —.

       

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        Hi Laura

        Welcome to the forum and ditto all Steve’s remarks. We trad bow folks always recommend a drop in poundage for people trying to developed or enhance their tradbow skills. It definitely speeds the learning curve.

        I noticed in your remarks – your hunting with the recurve problem and if I understood you correctly, what could be occurring is as follows;

        Since you have hunted for sometime and successfully with your Compound, my guess is you use a sight on it ( but not one on your Wasp?) If this is the case – when hunting your eye is focused on the deer till just before you shoot – with the compound your focus goes to the sight for the shot. Something you have now trained to do under stress ( hunting) . With the recurve ( instinctive)  you need to focus on a little spot right in the center of the animals vitals, up to, including, and after the shot. If you shoot at the whole animal ( unfocused) we usually miss.  Your thoughts ?

        I liked a number of the Browning bows, the Wasp is a great bow and worth keeping.

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        Raymond Coffman
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          Thanks Steve for the excellent info. As you mentioned Axfords book is a great study of the biomechanics of Archery. Worth having in any archers bookshelf.

          Jerry

          I think if you try adjusting your hip position ( as Steve mentioned) on this slope tgt problem you may solve the issue. What sighting method are you using ( I am instinctive – mostly haha) ? It kinda sounded like the way you view the tgt on this sloping terrain is throwing you off?

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          Raymond Coffman
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            JB

            Had a lot of fun hunting in PA years ago.

            The grizzly is an excellent bow. I am sure, once you get those arrows tuned to your satisfaction, the combo will be just the huckleberry for your hunting in PA. Let us know how it goes, and wether you stay with the 175s or go to the 200s

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            Raymond Coffman
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              Hi Luke

              Welcome to the forum. Most of my bows are shorter and more than 50lbs, R/D longbows -. Maybe one of our members will chime in and have something to move in your category

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                MT

                Interesting question.

                If I am understanding you correctly. You are standing  on the side of the hill  slopes higher one side than the other ( depending on which way your facing ), and you are shooting along the contour ? I dont think I have ever shot game in that scenario-  my range is not set up for that. But it could be and I think I will set up a tgt like you’ve described and try shooting it in the next couple days.

                I am not a shooting coach; but it sounds like you are getting into a contorted shooting stance ( feet pointing away ie down or up slope)? What style of shooting stance are you using ( standard / body Rt angle to tgt) ? I  (shoot open so what follows- )would try to keep my normal shooting stance with my legs acting as levelers( ie legs being wherever they have to be to keep me on the hill but my body still ( especially upper body ) mostly ( 45* +-)facing the tgt (and continue good form and release ). What we would call in rifle shooting- maintaining your natural body alignment.

                Maybe some of the other members have run into this and have some ideas. I’ll try to set this up and shoot it a bit . Got me curious —

                Scout aka Ray

                 

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                  JB

                  Haha, I thought the same in 1970 about PA. Great hunting state. Where I really started hunting. First deer with a recurve. I can’t imagine how crowded it must be on opening day. I am starting to feel that way about the west these days—-

                  Looks to me like you have thought it thru very well. I am sure you realize calculations are great and get you into the ballpark. Shooting style, idiosyncrasies of the arrow, bow etc will be the final determining factors. The trick, now as you know is tuning them to the bow. I would be careful there and take my time when you get close, small cuts —

                  Scout aka Ray

                  PS – lived in Carlisle

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                    Robin –Richard

                    Great Article

                    I was trying to give Richard another reason to finish up his new broadhead trap and give It a good work out ! (I hope he sends some pics when he gets it done) .

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                    Raymond Coffman
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                      Hi JB

                      Welcome to the forum . Bear grizzly is a fine classic bow. You didn’t mention what you where going to go hunting for?  2016 should work fine for most hunting applications. I usually pick the type and weight of broadhead I want and then tune that arrow ( which as you know involves cutting the arrow ) to the bow I will be using. If you are just getting back into trad (keeping the process simple), and  want a good FOC arrow pick a heavier bhead, make it razor sharp, and tune it perfectly to the Grizzly. If you get too heavy an arrow with a light pull bow your trajectory can suffer– if that’s a concern to you.

                      Scout aka Ray

                      Ps -been awhile since I tuned aluminum.  I noticed on the chart you don’t have a lot of room spinewise- edge of the chart ( haha where I usually end up) . What you have may turn out perfect or you might need to play with the different head weights or go to another shaft size to get what you want

                      Pss if you don’t already have it I heartily recommend- The Traditional Bowhunters Handbook by TJ Conrads.  I use mine all the time.

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                        Richard

                        When I played with straight fletch ( long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away). I shot some bheads don’t remember anything bad. I believe if the arrows are well tuned straight or helical will work. I know Dr Ashby and quite a few efoc folks here on the forums were shooting bheads with the very small straight AA fletch.

                        I think you should do a test of helical vs straight – 5″ vs 3″ feathers with different bheads etc when you get your ” sandlot” broadhead tgt up and running. I know I would interested in what you find out.

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                          Richard

                          Good idea. send some pics of the finished set up and shooting in to it —

                          I am interested in building one – most of the methods i have used beat the tgts up quick ( expensive). I periodically shoot broadheads into old tgt material – and I have a light bhead transportable version I take hunting

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                          Raymond Coffman
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                            Roger that —-

                            I have tried arrows Fetched in both those formats . I personally couldn’t tell any differences in how they shot — so just shoot helical these days .

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                            Raymond Coffman
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                              Charles and Richard

                              Hadn’t really thought of the bow quiver as an ersatz stabilizer. Now that you mention it in that context – kinda seems so — Haha

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                              Raymond Coffman
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                                Hi Jim

                                It is a good course ! Much harder than it looks! I think it is an excellent “proficiency test”  to see if you are staying in trim for hunting.  I am going to shoot it cold once a month and see what happens. Thanks for coming up with the idea. Hopefully some more folks will shoot it and post their results.

                                Switching bows recently as you mentioned probably had some effect on your score — keep shooting

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                                Raymond Coffman
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                                  Hi Ashley

                                  Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to say I am not familiar with elk river longbows or have one to take pics of . Hopefully one of our members will have info or some photos.
                                  Scout aka Ray

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