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in reply to: Book Suggestions #125600
For those of you interested in pre-Clovis Americans Adovasio’s new one Strangers in a New World is a must buy. Pricey but worth it. Section one covers where, how, and what were they doing. Section two covers every Clovis, Folsom, and pre-Clovis sight in great detail. Just the pictures and illustrations are worth the price. You won’t be dissapointed.
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Mike
in reply to: A Very Educational Film Clip #42048Thanks Doc for showing that one again. Think I may have mentioned this before if so disregard.
When I was still knocking about in tanks M60A-1 (rise,passive) the primary armor defeating round was a 105mm (they are 120mm now) fin stabilized discarding sabot.
After the sabot discard the penetrator was about oh 2+ feet long weighing about 35#. With most of the weight in the first 6″ in a depleted uranium tip and about 40mm in diameter traveling at about 1500m/sec. So what you have here is maximum KE with maximum mass of the penetrator and most of that up front. In tests and real life it penetrated a Russian T-70 through the armored front glaceous and after going through the crew compartment and through the engine block exited the rear. Nice fire works.:D
Point is heavy weight forward gives momentum as the Doc stated and maximum penetration.
Of course we are not gonna launch arrows at 1500m/s but—IMHO if you tune your bow to the heaviest arrow it can shoot accurately at you distance (mine is 20-25yds) and put as much weight up forward (mine is EFOC %31) you will take just about any animal in N.America even when bone is hit.
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Mike
in reply to: Embedding Video #41845Aw Mom you just don’t understand proper military radio procedure.
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Mike
in reply to: Ummmm…It be different #2174Mom
Where is the Ashby Library?
in reply to: Longbow or Recurve #52546Mark
In Md that is the lightest weight bow legal to hunt deer. As to the ? will a 35# bow take a deer—I provide the following: If you have the correct arrows tuned to that bow and you are confident that you can put that arrow where it needs to go and you can get inside that deers sensory envelope, meaning you can hunt and stalk within the effective range of your abilities then of course. I killed my first deer in 64 with a Ben Pearson #35 recurve at a long range of 12yds.
I would offer that asking that question means you have not read all the info available on this site. One of the neat things about trad bow hunting is we are relearning all the skills our ancestors knew and that we have forgotten.
Enjoy the journey.
in reply to: Longbow or Recurve #52437ssumner1 wrote: I personally shoot recurve. I believe Byron Ferguson was asked why he chose longbow over recurve, and he said that they were more forgiving. The recurve design is great, and I feel traditionally they had more power, but in our modified versions of the longbow/better materials, I no longer think this is the case.
I will say that although my Java Man Helms Deep recurve is my favorite bow, I will be getting the Elk Heart longbow next and it may turn out to be my favorite.
One other thing… I agree with the others about not over doing the draw weight. I made that mistake early and created a lot of bad habits trying to pull it back that took quite a while to resolve.
Summer1
Ha good post you will love your Elk Heart. Dave just told me that due to shoulder problems he has a Helm’s deep on order with Greg and can’t shoot his heavier Elk Heart any more or at least until the shoulder recovers.
So lesson learned, have a light bow to get you through the ageing times and hope for the best.:lol:
in reply to: Longbow or Recurve #52378Mark
There are a lot more folks on here that know more then I do —but I would strongly recommend that you start with a much lighter weight bow. Particularly since you have some issues with your arms or shoulders. My fall back is a 35# grizzly recurve (presently on loan to a good friend recovering from rotater cuff surgery)he used that for two weeks and know has my 49# shrew long bow. So he gets to try both before buying. I can tell you that he is in love with the longbow and I may not get it back. As you will discover in this forum weight of draw is insignificant to proper form and accuracy. And in Trad bow you don’t have any sights or let off devices its all you and the arrow.Don’t forget to check out T J’s book and Fred Asbell on the forums book list. Enjoy the journey.
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Mike
in reply to: a little sad today. #27093A second on Grumpy’ post. Right on Don
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Mike
in reply to: Flight of the Phoenix #14920Great story great photo and a big Congrats.
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Mike
in reply to: Hunting 2016 #24949Dave
Another big congrats. Well done.
Scott like your get up I have the same face mask–but I think it may scare the deer away.
Good hunting to all
Mike
in reply to: Why do you hunt? #49273This is why
Got out about 1430 today–cool crisp autumn afternoon–with a surprising SE wind (westerlies are normal) about 7kts damp from the rain and dew last night so walking is quiet and the breeze is subdued in the foliage. Temp is mid 50 but dropping to low 40’s quickly as the sun descends the ridges. About a 1/2 mile walk out the back of our yard to the gas pipeline trail which I follow to Mt road and cross to the gate on farmer John’s place.
As I face north with wind off my right shoulder, harvested 40 or so acres of soybeans to my left, a ten yard wide tree line borders that field to my front, tractor trail all grass about 10yds wide heads due north and to the east of the tree line so to the east is the woods I will hunt about 200 or so acres. As usual when I cross the road round the gate I step into the tree line to my left and just stand in the shadows for about 15 to 20 minutes for me to settle down and the woods to accept my presence. My eyes and ears are focused on the woods to my right up wind. I’m there about 5 min when I hear hoof beats headed my direction, first thought is our neighbor Blaine is out riding his horse–but then thundering out of the woods to my immediate front and 10 yards away runs a fork horn buck straight at me—darn me camera in pocket bow loosely dangling from my hand he (I think spies me in the shadow ) turns sharply back into the woods and before I can blink a 6 point closely on his tail charges right after him not even noticing me–neither tails went up as they run into the gully and up the ridge. Back east and into the wind. So there I stand without even my — in hand–jaw agape and a huge smile on my face followed by a choked laugh. 10 min into the hunt and all that action, never saw anything like it in all my years.
Paused there for another 20 min figuring maybe a bigger buck was after them or maybe a bear spooked em. Nothing. I think they were playing chase as the bucks are still in bachelor groups and no signs of rubs or scrapes on the rest of the 4 hour sneak.
Doesn’t get much better then that. Yep I will be out there tomorrow. Trouble is do I want to be ready with bow or camera? 😆
Good hunting my friends
Mike
in reply to: HUNTING BUDDY #48655grumpy wrote: Decided long ago there is no such thing as everyday life. After a few imminent death experiences you treasure every moment, and find meaning in every moment.
Again 😀
Mike
in reply to: HUNTING BUDDY #36855😀
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Mike
in reply to: What ya got goin? #24132grumpy wrote: 25 days… Deer season, oh, and my birthday.
Well a big happy ? birthday Grumpy -trust the gals have baked the perfect cake.
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Mike
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