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in reply to: First Bow Suggestions For Wife #22865

My girlfriend is the same way. I bought her a inexpensive bear black bear that was 30#@28″ first to see if she liked it. She fell in love with it so I bought her a 1960 bear grizzly at 30# @28″. Sweet bow. They are both 60″ long. She is drawing about 24-25″. The most important thing is get a bow that you have absolutely zero questions on how easy it will be for her to draw it. The last thing she needs to do is work into a bow. Now is the time to build confidence and having a bow easy to pull is the ticket. You can always get lighter arrows or a heavier bow later on. My girlfriend now has 2 Recurves and a long bow she loves shooting.

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in reply to: Bowsocks ?? #21434

I use the spandex ones from ABS. Work great and pretext your limb finish as well. No performance difference I can see.

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in reply to: A slap on the wrist… #20835

definitely brace height! I was just shooting a new to me hill longobow i recently traded fore and notices a lot of string slap. Eyeballed the brace height and it was about 1.5 inches to short, twisted her up and she’s firing on all cylenders again, no noise, no slap.

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #19834

Yes sir! Thanks Ed. Let’s see of my math is correct. 31 3/8″ from throat of nock to back of insert, 24 7/8″ from throat of nock to balance point=29%foc

Total completed arrow weight is 661 grains.

Have my best attempt at A&A 2″ feathers and my pinstripe tape tubulator 1/4″ in front of them.

Maintained bh integrity by using brass insert and steel screw in adapter.

Ferrel is larger than shaft.

Tipped with mirror polished beyond razor sharp 160 grain grizzly heads from either a 51# liberty contender and/or a 56# hill redman.

I’m a happy camper tonight!

Now we must await the ” field test results “.

:v()

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #18587

bareshafted from 3 to 20 steps roughly. Decided to try some GT 5575s I found in the corner of my bowroom. only had 5 but got em flying really good bare shafted with 100 grain insert, 125 grain adapter and 160 grian field tip. total weight is about 660 w/ 3×2″ A&A feathers. These are the ticket. I have not calculated FOC yet but anticipate they will be over 25% baed on the tip weight. The best part is they are breshafting perfect and they are less then $60/dozen shipped.

Think I finally found a new carbon I can be happy with.

Thanks for all the help. Hope to post some pictures of the

“field test”. Next hunt is the weekend of September 20th. If i don’t get to slip out before then with this weather being nicer I may have to.

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #10739

Got her fletched up with those A&A feathers and a tubular or 1/4″in front of them. Guess my bare shaft diagnoses was way off, horrible flight and tail circles to the target with every shot hitting nock left in my block target from all distances. Guess these are too stiff? Dangit! Had em at 715 grains never did calculate foc. Moot point now.

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #10634

allright made it home after stopping by hobby lobby on the way from the air port to pick up some pinstriping tape and some shelf build out material if needed…

I took a full lenght Carbon wood vapor 4000 (have about 3 dozen of these just all bundled up in the corner) and glued in a 100 grain brass insert. Then glued a 125 grain steel bh adapter into a 160 grain field tip. Total bare shaft weight was 715 grains.

took it out to bareshaft test/tune. Showed some good tail right flight (traditionally would have said way heavy) however, I read a thread last night where Dr. Ashby stated that you cannot judge an EFOC arrow by tail in flight, only by relation to a center line. And I also rememberd that you are not supposed to cant the bow as you normally would when shooting, but shoot a verticle bow.

So by my best eye, these arrows are as center as I can put them (some were right some were let but when i did everythign right I hit the bulls eye dead center or close to it) with a slight nock right of point (but this doens’t matter right?:?: ). I have some slightly heaver 300 grain field tips I can shoot to see if this cleans up the nock right flight but is this neceserry?

havn’t calculated FOC yet but did locate and mark balance point, and calculated center of arrow (15.8125) from throad of nock to back of point. I will do my best to make some A&A feathers from my surplus of 3″ parabolics and throw a handy dandy turbulator on the front of the and see what happens when a broad head is introduced to the mix.

FEedback appreciated and Thanks again for the advice/help!

Dustin

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #10440

That makes sense, the only way I am going to get this with what I have on hand is full lenght with 100 grain shaft insert and 125 grain bh insert. May be worth buying the 225 grain Tuff Heads.

With 100+125+160 on a full lenght tapered shaft should give me a shaft pushign 800 grains out of a 51# long bow.

I bareshafted these with a 300 grain VPA penetrator and they were perfect to target just a little nock high (I interpreted as the rainbow trajector). Did not caclulate FOC on these but will as soon as I get home.

Got some GT 5575s in a corner I may mess with as well as some Carbonwood vapor 4000s.

will loose the wrap and through a turbulator 1/4 inch in front as well.

thanks for the help! this forem is AWESOME!!!!

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #9830

Thanks guys, will try the trad ‘heavies’ tomorrow with the 125 steel insert in the 160 grain grizzly with the 100 grain brass shaft insert.

I have to ask, what’s the significance of 16 gpp?

And yes these are my hog arrows, the farthest shot I’ve made on a hog was 18 steps, got a complete pass through with a magnus 1, w/ bleeders, a 675grain arrow and over 25% foc on that arrow out of a 59#, 50year old kodiak recurve.

hog was 175# on the scales.

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #9541

hey DaveT,

whats your shelf in relation to centershot?

Right now at full lenght AD trads are too stiff from my 51#. I put a 300 grain field tip in it and it shot great but with a hell of a RAINBOW trajectory at 20 yards. That made 400 grains up front.

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in reply to: light arrow Extreme FOC #9330

One more question. How much importance is given to a steel bh and brass shaft inserts? I can get almost 400 grains up front on my full length arrow dynamics and possibly reduce the spine enough to shoot from my 51# longbow. However I would be way up there in total arrow weight ( I’d guess well over 700 grains, can weigh it out when I get home tomorrow). This would give me a much stronger bh/arrow connection. Not sure what he fox would be but I bet is be getting close to uefoc.

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in reply to: KME Broadhead sharpener, Single Bevel? #7852

hopefully that pic uploaded..I have had great success using the KME broadhead sharpener on the new Grizzly 160s with the KME grind.

ps. this is my first post on the forums. 😀

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in reply to: Bear Razor Heads #14583

Hey wolf,
A guy on Ebay has 99 for sale right now!

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