[MoSportsman]

in reply to: MA-2 heads #21075

I ended up using 100 grain adapters with these, so the total head weight is 200gr. GT trad. 400s 30 inch total weight of about 520 grains. With the light flesh this arrow encountered on its journey through I was a little surprised the arrow did not stick in the dirt behind her. I have to recalculate my FOC number have not done that since I changed arrows a couple months ago.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: MA-2 heads #20958

Hey these old heads did the job. I took my first deer with a recurve last Friday evening. A small year and a half old doe. Nicked rib going in and went between ribs going out. Arrow fell out on her first jump. She went about 50 yards and was done, double lung. Initially I thought the head was not a factor in her quick demise and it really wasn’t, the placement was good enough that any head would work.

After butchering though I was amazed at the amount of blood in and around the exit side shoulder and leg. Lots of hemorrhage going on. The head did not even suffer a nick. Worked like a charm, I saw no lack of lethality in this one.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: Lower Bow Weights, The Ashby Report and Whitetail Hunting. #10135

I am shooting about 48# @ 28″ and I am finding I am right on the line. With a standard D50 string that came with the bow I had 500 GT trads flying pretty well with 200 gr heads. I just bought a Laser Fast flight string and everything started shooting way weak. I had some full length 400s and shot them, also weak.

I cut off the 400s to 30 inches and moved my rest closer to center from moving it way out to get the 500s to shoot (unsuccessfully). Now the 30 inch 400s are behaving like the 500s did at the same length. I guess now I am glad I bought the 400s where I was a bit miffed I bought the absolute wrong arrows in the beginning.

Maybe now I see I was right on the line between the two weight arrows so it is difficult. I don’t know how you guys shooting off the shelf with little adjust-ability in the bow ever get things tuned in right.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: MA-2 heads #48917

Finally got to shoot my MA 2s and they did pretty good. Hit a beer can 4 out of 8 shots. That is certainly as good as I would shoot with field tips. Shot them into the soft mud and they didn’t find any rocks, or if they did they did not show any nicks or bends.

I have never shot any 2 blade heads, always believing they would wind plane and or not shoot where my field tips did. Nice to have a bow and arrows that are tuned in I guess.

I think these will be with me this deer season along with confidence.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: Lower Bow Weights, The Ashby Report and Whitetail Hunting. #24638

I am new to this whole thing but I have read the reports with extreme interest and for the most part bought it hook line and sinker.

I have hunted whitetail exclusively for 35 years. I have had some, maybe mostly complete pass throughs in my life (can’t think of but one or two that did not have an exit wound.) I have always used three blade vented heads, never over 125gr and admittedly have never truly known much about tuning. I have never really shot a bow over 65 pounds and now I am shooting a 48# recurve.

I wanted to make sure I was going to be deadly so I started researching traditional shooting and found the Ashby reports. I like the ideas. So far I have a pretty well tuned bow shooting groups down to 4 inches at 20 yrds with bare and fletched shafts together with 30.5 inch GT 500 trad arrows, 200 grain heads. I have got 2 1/2 by 1.1 inch single bevel heads with a total weight of around 500 grains. 20% foc.

I look forward to sharing my results in the field next fall.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: MA-2 heads #53892

I have piles of MA – 3 L and S and a pile of Bodkin 3 blades that would be usable. Most all of them are in as new condition. Don’t know if I am too interested in trade though. Got too much stuff now. I would love to have a Browning Serpintine head and something in the Howard Hill style to add to my broadhead collection. The additions I would like to make to my collection are all about looks. Most of what I have now all look pretty much the same two and three blade heads. I also would like some Ben Pearson that have the cut out ribs for a feral.

I know these MAs and Bodkins are pretty common so I would probably trade three for one if it is a head I like the looks of.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: MA-2 heads #49456

Yes, I know you are right about both.

The beyond center will be a problem with the Panther also. The biggest problem I see with it is ignorance. I read Doc’s warning about beyond center tuning and thankfully know about the pitfalls. I have already experienced them. It would definitely be a problem and confusing if I had not read his warnings.

The adjustable rest and sights are both working to give me false impressions while tuning. I am glad for the knowledge that they are liars. I guess it could be like going to buy a used car. Even though you know the salesman is going to lie to you it doesn’t mean you can’t end up with a good car.

The Coyote will be going to Ebay shortly.

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: MA-2 heads #48322

The two I have worked into single bevel so far took a little work but the seam up the middle of the steal is now a non issue. If they hold up for practice into foam I suppose they should easily pop through ribs on a whitetail.

Otherwise the specs on them are what the Dr. orders for flying true and deep penetration. They right around 2.5 inches long and just over an inch wide.

I guess soft steel bends before it breaks. I will have to keep an eye on them as I shoot them into foam to make sure the nose does not get a bend in it. Ordered some 100 gr adapters yesterday and some 200gr practice heads. Will be tuning into that weight. New Martin Diablo TD (now Jaguar) should be on my porch today.

Yea, I am a little strange. I will be mixing old with new. Will be using a peep and fiber-optic sights and shooting off a rest in a beyond center riser and using carbon arrows tipped with 50s vintage broadheads. At least I will be putting away my mechanical release.

I have been playing with 250gr heads with a PSE Coyote of the same weight as the Martin will be and have a variety of old arrows I have tested and have not really found the spine weight that satisfies me before I order a dozen shafts. Of course I will be starting over with the new bow and the 200gr heads.

I just bought 114 old heads off Ebay and ended up with about 20 different heads for my newly formed collection. I will be selling the extras and probably end up getting the whole lot for free. You see part of my motivation for using these heads is I am a tightwad.

Anybody want to buy a PSE coyote? Bought that at a flee market at below market value. I am going to use that profit to help pay for my new Martin.:D

[MoSportsman]

in reply to: Now I understand story #17682

I am looking forward to getting a new Recurve and getting it tuned in right and make it a killing machine. I about got back into the recurve thing about 10 years ago but I gave up because I couldn’t get my broadheads to group anywhere near where my field tips were so I just didn’t get the confidence to hunt with it. This time I will overcome that and get them together.

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