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in reply to: 2 Blade Blood Trails? #36634
Todd,
Well put. Do you have anymore experience othen than the one whitetail and the grizzly combo? I am very interested as I have yet to harvest an animal with a single bevel. I have been doing a lot of testing and have confimed Dr. Ashby’s findings for myself; needless to say I am very excited for the upcoming fall!
in reply to: Shooting Game Already Dead..issues? #36620As usual well said Dave…
in reply to: 2 Blade Blood Trails? #32423Wow…I am impressed as I have not had similar experiences. In fact I have had quite the opposite on two occasions which make me sick to this day. What are you shooting for a set-up…bow weight, arrow weight, shaft material, EFoC etc. I am also confused as to this “whitetails are one of the easiest to penetrate” statement that a lot of people seem to be using. If hit in the soft correct place and comparing it to say a moose then I would agree that they are easier than said moose, but on a heavy bone hit with some of my prior set-ups those deer might as well be armor plated.
Again, I am not picking a fight just sayin…
in reply to: Idea – already tried?? #32418Copied from my thread on this very topic. You should check it out Dr. Ashby has posted some great pictures there!
Stories, Experience and your Dr. Ashby Inspired Set-Up
Posted Sunday, July 5, 2009 at 5:54 PM…I am shooting a Black Widow PMA III pulling 49 lbs at my 28 inch draw. My arrows are Easton Axis N-Fused 500 carbons with 100 grain brass inserts tipped with 217 grain (w/ adapter) Abowyer Brown Bear broadheads. I used the FOC calculation chart in the Ashby Library and my arrows are 24.38% EFoC…
in reply to: newbie: books? #31879Mike Mitten “One with the Wilderness”
Bryce Lambley “My Neck of the Woods”
Anything by Gene Wensel, Jay Massey, Rodger Rothaar or David Petersen. You can’t go wrong with any of them…
in reply to: HUNTING FROM THE GROUND #31874I am looking at trying the ghillie suit route this year. When I lived in Montana I rarely got into a treestand but since moving to Michigan it seems thats all I do. I want to return to my ground hunting roots thus the decision to hunt from the ground this year. Keep the info coming guys…I am very interested in this thread.
in reply to: Ashby forum reborn — please read! #31869It’s great to have you back Dr. Ashby! Spending time amongst friends will surely take your mind off of “things” and make the summer fly by…I wish you well with the continuing battery of tests…I was there once in my life as well and I hope it is a trip I will not have to take again. I will be looking for the upcoming issue of the Primitive Archer…it sounds like a very interesting article.
Best,
Danin reply to: 2 Blade Blood Trails? #31860Mr. Wesbrock,
You have to place what Dr. Ashby is saying into context. The single bevel criteria ranks as low as it does on his list given a soft tissue hit…when heavy bone is encountered the single bevel requirement jumps close to the top…top three I believe (recollection from reading the passage). That being said the amount of blood on the ground has been distilled to a few things…shot placement (high or low in the chest cavity), the existence of an exit hole and what vital structure(s) are cut or ruptured on the way through.
I do not doubt that you have had complete penetration as stated above but have you ever hit a shoulder blade or other similar heavy bone with those heads? I am not picking a fight, I am genuinely interested in your experience.
in reply to: Idea – already tried?? #31849I like the idea of getting more weight up front but never considered the fact that it will weaken the arrow behind the point. I was also wondering why the need to shoot such heavy arrows? I know about the heavy bone threshold but I am wondering if the EFoC percentage is the thing we should be focusing on more? Dr. Ashby your thoughts on this? As a for instance…I am shooting a 550 grain arrow with an EFoC of 24.38%…for what I am hunting (whitetails) I feel that this should get the job done pretty readily. I could be completely wrong on this though, I am just throwing some ideas and thoughts out there.
Those are some very convincing pictures Dr. Ashby! Do you happen to know any of the stats regarding the set-ups i.e. draw weight, EFoC, arrow material, yardage, etc. Thank you again for the great pictures!!
in reply to: Shooting Game Already Dead..issues? #31838I agree with you Steve but I sure am glad Dr. Ashby has done testing like this. Its not that I don’t have respect for the game animals I harvest because I do. But, it can also be taken like those people who donate their body to science, nothing but respect is shown to them who do and the knowledge gained is priceless. It is with this mindset that I am going to attempt some testing this fall.
in reply to: single bevel broadheads #31822Hey come over and join us on the Arrow Lethality Forum where we discuss this very topic. I think you will find a lot of good info over there…
in reply to: Incorrect file #27986Send a note or email to Robin and I am sure she would be more than happy to fix it as they are in the process of getting it going and I am sure discrepancies will arise. If you see more be sure to let her know…
in reply to: Ashby forum reborn — please read! #25529I have also heard that using the blue loc-tite will settle any nagging doubts about the head coming loose. I also know that a single bevel head rotates at a faster rate on impact than an arrow spinning towards the target. This could be a problem upon impact as far as the head becoming loose. I only have a vague idea of what convex sharpening is so I will say this…if the convex method takes a bunch of metal off the cutting edge thus making it thinner I would stay away from that method because it could ruin the structural integrity of the cutting edge in a heavy bone impact situation thus negating any gains achieved by an Ashby maximized set-up. Just my .02 cents…
in reply to: You Favorite Broadhead and why ? #24529I have seen “You-Tube” footage of the Alaska Bowhuting Supply “Ashby” broadhead completely penetrating an elephant. The arrow was hanging by the fletching on the far side. Now thats penetration! My enthusiasm was rapidly curbed by the price tag though. I opted for the relatively expensive but more palateable Abowyer Brown Bear.
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