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in reply to: Killing Elk… #53866
David Petersen wrote: Over on the philosophical side–and whether or not it “works” to produce more animals for us to hunt–it comes down to whether we want wild animals out there or farmed. And whether, thus, we want to be hunters or harvesters.
That slope can keep dropping too. Most people in the East do what they can to improve habitat on their properties. Food plots, burning regimes, fertilizing, etc.
in reply to: Killing Elk… #53224I’ve been seeing a lot of recommendations on the PA websites not to feed the deer as well but most people do and the deer seem to be fine. Elk must be more susceptible to this than whitetails because there are a lot of reported cases.
in reply to: Hunting in the heat! #48760Ptaylor wrote: [quote=Etter1]People are too worried about this. I live in GA and our bow season starts in September where an overnight low might be in the mid 60s or might be in the mid 70s. We have left deer out overnight and they are fine.
I even left a pig out one night due to a poor blood trail and found her fifteen hours later. Clean as usual, rinse off the meat, same as any other pig I ever killed.
Hey Etter what about bears in that kind of heat by you? Ever had any issues with their fat starting to rot?
I’ve only killed one here in Ga and I was only two miles in. I killed that one right at daylight and had it out by noon so I don’t have any experience there but I think that as long as you get the hide off, there wouldn’t be an issue. I would assume that as long as you got to any meat within about 12 hours, it would be okay. In the mtns it usually drops down into the fifties, at least, in September.
Again, I have noticed an odor when skinning a critter left out on a warm night but once the meat is rinsed, I never notice a difference.
We usually do the cooler with the drain plug open thing with all of our meat. It really helps to pull blood out and tenderize it.
Ptaylor wrote: [quote=Etter1]I’ve not read much lately for some reason but it is time to get back in the shelf. I typically read “Illumination in the Flatwoods” before every turkey season and this year will be no different. If you haven’t read it, please do.
I’ll also soon re-read both of Ben Kilham’s books on black bears when the summer scouting season starts.
That’s funny Etter, I’m the same way. I read Kilham’s books and “Walking with bears” each spring before the bear rut, and an excellent book about black-tail deer by Boyd Iverson before every deer hunt I do.
I read walking with bears based on your rec and loved it too. It’s a little slower read than Kilham’s books but a ton of great info!
in reply to: Eastern Elk #46244Kentucky odds are really tough. I looked into it once and figured out that as a GA resident, I probably had a better chance of winning the lottery and buying my own elk herd.
Best of luck to you though. The success rates once drawn are really high!
in reply to: Hunting in the heat! #46242Steve Graf wrote: I second what Etter says…
Biggest problem leaving an animal out over night is not spoilage, it’s predators. Around here the most common problem is opossums eating the a$$ out.
It can be a little stinky doing the field dressing in the morning, but the meat is fine.
Yeah, coyotes might find it first and if you’re in North GA, bears almost certainly will but the meat is just fine. If people saw how meat is really cared for in most butchering facilities, they would be less worried about their own.
in reply to: Hunting in the heat! #45696People are too worried about this. I live in GA and our bow season starts in September where an overnight low might be in the mid 60s or might be in the mid 70s. We have left deer out overnight and they are fine.
I even left a pig out one night due to a poor blood trail and found her fifteen hours later. Clean as usual, rinse off the meat, same as any other pig I ever killed.
in reply to: Emergency Gear #45268I never bury. That involves tools.
1. Pick up large rock
2. Do business at hand
3. Place large rock on business
I’ve not read much lately for some reason but it is time to get back in the shelf. I typically read “Illumination in the Flatwoods” before every turkey season and this year will be no different. If you haven’t read it, please do.
I’ll also soon re-read both of Ben Kilham’s books on black bears when the summer scouting season starts.
Bruce, I know I told you about “Deep Enough for Ivorybills”. I would surely recommend that to anybody as a great series of essays on hunting, fishing, and outdoor theology set in the deep south. That book set the tone for my early life here.
I’m about to go on a serious amazon spree and “Wolfer” is at the top of my list but I cannot for the life of me remember all the titles you spoke of so recommend me a few Bruce.
in reply to: Wind and Arrow Flight? #37077No penalties for thread hijacks here. 😀
in reply to: Wind and Arrow Flight? #36999Which one is Walter Matthau and which is Jack Lemon?
in reply to: Wind and Arrow Flight? #36821Doc, I shoot tree sharks and I’ve always wanted a lot of feather to stabilize such a big head but, in reality, tree sharks have less actual surface area than the much more narrow zwickey delta and I’ve never had arrow flight issues. I’m currently shooting a 600 grain 28″ arrow with 300 grains of that being the insert and point. Maybe I’ll try going down to a shorter feather on my next set. Or maybe even four fletch. I have to assume that four fletch of 3″ feathers would catch even less crosswind than 3-4″ feathers.
I don’t know if my cheap fletching jig has a setting for four fletch but it sure would be nice to try out. I know Bruce shoots them.
in reply to: Our Arizona Javi Hunt #28897Doc Nock wrote: Hey, you got time away to play… so now it’s HONEY-DO time… or just catching u p on work! It’ll keep!
Ended up with 2 navels did ya, Etter, after you bath in the creek! :shock::oops::roll:
I did a lot of climbing every day and even though Im from GA, the SW sun is something else. Most evenings I would get back to camp just about the time the sun would drop behind the Gardner Canyon walls and the temp would drop about twenty degrees. The creek was fed by snow melt from a mountain about two miles upstream and it was only about 18″ deep so you couldnt jump in but had to purposely lay down in it.
It was electrifying!
in reply to: Our Arizona Javi Hunt #28838Im sorry guys. I promise I will get pics up as soon as I can. Been super busy and cant for the life of me figure out a mac compared to my old windows programming.
One thing I can assure you is that a river (creek) in SE Arizona feels just as cold in January as one does in central Idaho. Wow that was one cold bath! The weather there amazed me. The temp fluctuation within minutes was astounding.
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