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    • ChumpMcgee
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      I have been playing around with Spiral Flu Flu’s. I have made a few arrows with the spiral fletching using contact cement and full length feathers for flu flu’s. I am running into the problem of having the ends flair up after shooting them half a dozen times and the fletching then starts to unravel. I have gone and re glued the ends down and but a bead up fletching glue on the ends in hope that would stop the problem but has not. Does anyone have any suggestion on how I could fix this or glue them on differently?

    • Ben M.
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      Spiral flu-flu’s are my least favorite, and this is part of the reason. Besides the glue problem, I have trouble getting consistent flight from arrow to arrow. When I made them, I tied a piece of sewing thread around both ends of the fletching and topped with a drop of super glue.

      Try these flu-flus. It’s easier to get the fletching identical from arrow to arrow and they have more punch on impact. I’ve lost track of how many squirrels & pigeons mine have killed.

    • ChumpMcgee
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      I must have seen your arrows once before cause this picture looks very familiar to me. Currently I get them to shoot no further than 40 yards with two feathers when shot up in the air, do you find that these go further or do they go about the same distance? I might have to make a couple of these tonight for fun 🙂

    • Troy Breeding
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      When making spiral flu flus I’ve always had to wrap the ends of the feathers like I do when I make a primitive arrow. If not I had the same problem. I tried different glues with little to no improvement in holding. Once I started wrapping the ends the problem stopped.

      Troy

    • Ben M.
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      Well I’ve never measured it, but I think these’ll fly further than 40yds. I shoot ’em out of a 60lb bow. What’s fun is experimenting with the number of times you wrap the feather around the arrow. More wraps, shorter flight. Fewer wraps, further flight. I’ve got mine so that they fly like my normally-fletched arrows out to around 18yds. That was another of my problems with spiral flu-flu’s. They dropped so much so fast that they just wouldn’t hit where I looked (I shoot instinctively). I couldn’t swap between shooting regular arrows and flu-flu’s–I just couldn’t hit the target consistently, and when the flu-flu’s did hit, they just had no punch.

    • ChumpMcgee
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      That is my issue that I have seen with them as well. They fly great for me but no punch. At 20 yards they actually bounce off of the hay bail that I shoot at which I laughed at but its hard for me to have confidence in them to take down any small game.

    • Ben M.
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      Yup, and it’s a darn shame ’cause they look so cool but they just don’t work.

    • ChumpMcgee
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      Do you use standard 5 inch feathers or do you cut down full length feathers?

    • Ben M.
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      I use standard 5″ traditional cut feathers. I use a regular fletching jig but only glue about the front half of the feather down. Once they’re all good & dry I go back and glue the spiral down by hand. I use Duco and it works fine for me. It’s a bit tricky but I don’t know of an easier way, and so far I haven’t had problems with the feather lifting back off the arrow. These arrows sound really cool when you shoot ’em. “ZZZZZZZZZZZTT!” Post a pic when you’re done, man.

    • William Warren
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      Don’t the critters hear the ZZZZT? I know I’m going to try these though, they look good.

    • Ben M.
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      I really HATE losing an arrow. Whenever I shoot up I always use the flu-flu. I guess maybe I’d feel worse losing an arrow than missing a squirrel. When I shoot low I don’t use the flu-flu. I have plenty of squirrels dart out of the way & dodge my arrows, but I’ve killed plenty of them too. I posted one taken with this type of flu flu in the 2012 Hunting Success thread.

    • Ben M.
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      Kohlhorst,

      What’d you come up with on these flu-flus?

      -Ben

    • ChumpMcgee
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      I was going to post some pictures on the flu flu’s that I made but the craftsmanship is lacking on a few of the new hybrid arrows. I made two different types of the hybrid that you showed in this thread. The first time that I tried to flech the bottom part and then spiral the top part using one feather and right where I started to twist the fletching the feather would not stay glued to the shaft. The second arrow I did I cut one feather for the bottom part and glued it down then used the other half of the feather I cut to spiral. This ended up having the same effect as any other spiral fletching and the ends are popping up. Do you have any suggestions on how to keep the feathers from coming up off the shaft using your hybrid method??

    • Ben M.
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      Hmm…dunno, man.

      My arrows are wood; I coat them with Bohning gasket lacquer. I clean the fletching area with denatured alcohol before gluing on the fletching. Maybe try pinning the feather to the arrow until the glue dries? (With a pin or thumbtack, etc) I tried that but the feather came back off when I pulled the pin out. They were glued together.

      I had to botch a few before they started looking/working right. Good luck!

    • ChumpMcgee
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      I have been thinking of wrapping fishing string around them to keep them pressed down the next time I make them….I don’t know either I am guessing it due to my inexperience. I just started putting my own feathers on last summer. So its all a learning process to me

    • Stumpkiller
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      tkohlhorst wrote: I have made a few arrows with the spiral fletching using contact cement and full length feathers for flu flu’s.

      Try Duco cement ot Fletch-tite, or fletching tape. Never heard of using contact cement for fletching.

    • ChumpMcgee
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      Stumpkiller wrote: [quote=tkohlhorst]I have made a few arrows with the spiral fletching using contact cement and full length feathers for flu flu’s.

      Try Duco cement ot Fletch-tite, or fletching tape. Never heard of using contact cement for fletching.

      I have never tried the Duco cement before. I have used fletch tight before but since it takes so long to dry it makes more of a mess than anything, at least when I have tried. The reason why I use contact cement is once the fletching comes in contact with the shaft it sticks right to it and I don’t have to wait for it to dry. Makes for easy fletching but the feathers start to fall off after a shooting session with them.

      What I have noticed though is if I use two feathers that once of the fletch feathers will come lose but the other feather will stay glued on….maybe I should just fletch up one feather and see how it works.

      Maybe flu flu arrows just need more maintenance than regular arrows two due to the amount of drag that they produce.

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