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    • Guy Seniceros
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      Hello All,

      I’m looking forward to some small game and bird hunting this year. More specifically, rabbits and pheasant with turkey possible. I’ve been trying to read up on the various blunts available for the purpose and it sounds like most hunters are not very happy with the plastic/rubber varieties. On the other hand, most seem pretty happy with the Ace Hex Heads. Your thoughts and experiences will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

       

      Guy   (Bladeswell)

    • richard roop
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      First off ……..Even with my 60# recurve…………….. I wouldn’t use a blunt on anything larger than a jackrabbit. Turkeys & such I go with broadheads.

      Close range stuff, (5 to 20 yards) I have 6 fletch flu-flus with the big black rubber blunts up front.  Very accurate and they hit like Thor’s Hammer.

      Long range stuff, (25 yards to infinity) I like the Judo heads set up to group with my broadheads.  Accurate, good small game head and I can usually find them in the grass or brush when roving.

    • Raymond Coffman
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      Guy

      Hex head is a good small game head ( squirrels , cottontails, grouse). Back in the olden times we took a weighted .38 special case and glued it on the end of one of our wood arrows……

      Turkey’s as Richard mentioned — broadheads. There are a number of bheads designed specifically for turkey ( more expensive) designed to keep the arrow in the bird ( supposedly for easier recovery) I have not killed a turkey with any of them so have no field report. Most hunters just use their big game bheads.

      Scout aka Ray

      • Tommy Bozung
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        Yeah, I’ve saw an article recently about using spent shells. How much do you have to take off the arrow to fit the shell on? Are most wooden shafts (sold retail direct to consumers), approx the same diameters?

    • Guy Seniceros
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      Thanks Guys,

      I’ll make sure to use Bheads for turkey. And just for curiosity sake I’ll take a look at the Bheads designed specifically for turkey. Thanks again.

      Guy      (Bladeswell)

       

    • northernarcher
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      The last grouse I took was with a .38 special casing glued onto a 125 grain field point. The result was a 200 grain blunt that proved very effective.

      I also chase grouse with judo points and regular steel blunts, both weighing in at 145 grains. The Judo points are excellent for arrow recovery, but the regular steel blunts are the most cost effective for stump shooting and small game hunting.

    • aeronut
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      I make my own blunts by pressing an 11/32 field point into a .38 special case.  I use 125 grain field points but you can press any weight point into the case and they are a tight fit.  No glue needed.

    • richard roop
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      Cool idea putting a .38 case over a field point !!!!

      Thinking that the weight could be adjusted a bit by dropping in a few #6 birdshot.  Mounted on an expendable #2 or #3 shaft I will fear no Ground Squirrel sitting on a rock !!!!

    • aeronut
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      I give up.

      I’ve tried twice to post some pictures of the .38 special blunts but they won’t show up.

    • aeronut
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    • Raymond Coffman
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      There ya go

      Oughta work just dandy…..

      Scout aka Ray

    • frassettor
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      I’ve used these with great success! I also have the VPA SGT but have not taken anything with them  as of yet.

    • Raymond Coffman
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      Frassettor

      That looks like a store bought version of aeronuts….

      Obviously it works well — successful hunt….

      Scout aka Ray

    • frassettor
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      I’m not sure. I got those from Ted Fry from Raptor Archery a long time ago.

    • redz
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      I’ve been using Judo points for small game. They work well

    • Stix
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      Something that I have used with success on small game is a flattened out field tip with a wing nut at the rear.

      It’s only a few cents and widely available at hardware stores.

      And as others have said, broadheads for turkey, but you can add wing nuts behind a broadhead if you wish to impede penetration. Wing nut

    • Raymond Coffman
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      Redz – Judo’s always a good choice …

      Styx – way cool ” shade tree ” small game head.  I imagine it works pretty dang good.

      Scout aka Ray

    • Dima Zimba
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      So only shoot at rabbits

    • richard roop
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      “So only shoot at rabbits.”

      Uh …………………. No.

      One of the simple joys of shooting Traditional is Roving, alone or with a hunting partner or two. I have my field points, blunts and broadheads all set up to impact the same. With a quiver full of blunts I can wander the desert taking shots at dirt clods, cow patties, and small game up to the size of Jack Rabbits. Great practice for hunting big game and great fun.

      • Dima Zimba
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        How often do you hunt? Maybe tell me a couple of fables, I would listen to such an interesting person like you. It’s just that at the moment I just can’t, my leg is broken, you can’t run. I always love to listen

    • richard roop
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      So, Dima …………. What kind of terrain are you hunting when the leg’s not broke; farmland, desert, mountains, swamps ????

      What kind of critters do you have to fling arrows at ??? Big game, small game, bowfishing ???  Gotta love bowfishing.

      You might want to do a web search on a guy named Nubbie (sp?) Pate.  Now, THAT was an interesting guy.

      Get all healed up & shooting !!!!!

    • Kees
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      Whoa, that Nubbie Pate was one fascinating guy!  Thanks for adding some more to my knowledge.

      ~Kees~

    • richard roop
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      Kees;

      Happy to help. We have some really interesting history but sadly too many new shooters are only interested in arrow speed and where the ’14’ ring is on the 3D target.

      Ok ……………… End of rant. If you’re not familiar with the Wilhelm Brothers, they were quite a pair. One of them due to a shoulder injury anchored center of chest. Phenomenal shots doing a lot of “Do not try this ……… EVER” stuff like shooting cigarettes out of each other’s mouths. If you can find a U Tube video titled Meet The Champs I’m pretty sure that you’ll watch it more than once.  I’m still trying to find out what they used for their ‘smoke arrows’ .  Off the chart ‘cool factor’.

    • richard roop
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      Kees;

      Google;    meet the champs wilhem brothers

      It should come right up for you.

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