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    • Stephen Graf
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      So I’ve been having trouble with left/right shots for years now. Which boils down to form. I’ve been trying to figure it out and solve it for a long time with no luck.

      I hate form practice. Blank Bale shooting is so BORING I have a hard time keeping at it. Same with close shooting at the target. BORING

      Did I say that practicing form is BORING?

      So I was watching this video a few weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcGlA6P-964&list=UUgGoY0qpH8f11COXWkE8aLQ and decided to give shooting a vertical string a try.

      At first, it was frustrating because it really showed my left/right problem. But over time I have gotten better. But the best part is that it isn’t BORING. Shooting at the string is about as satisfying as shooting at a dot.

      In fact, for the last week or so, I have not shot at a dot (other than the squirrel that’s in the stewpot right now 😀 )

      Seems to be working for me and I thought I’d mention it for them that care.

    • wojo14
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      Thanks for the info! I to hate form practice, but I know I need to work on it due to my being new to the sport. I find shooting at golf tees is kinda fun. Gives me something small to focus on and work on form at the same time.

      I will give the string a try today!8)

    • Doc Nock
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      Jay Kidwell has a booklet out called “INSTINCTIVE ARCHERY”…paperback runs around $15-$19…very good read.

      He addresses that very left-right thing extensively and claims it is a simple “fix”…

      FWIW…

    • RalphRalph
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      Steve, I was playing with the string deal and also a perpendicular line drawn on my target butt. Seemed helpful but it was hard to explain to the club about the 1″ wide, up and down black stripe that just appeared on all the 3D targets. 🙄 😀

      My score didn’t go up but that mighta had something to do with the lumps on my head.

    • David CoulterDavid Coulter
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      Kavanaugh makes some good videos. I’ve enjoyed a bunch. I think he knows what he’s doing. Dwc

    • James HarveyJames Harvey
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      I got the same idea from Arne Moe’s youtube videos. It’s a really handy training aid.

    • Stephen Graf
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      R2 wrote: Steve, I was playing with the string deal and also a perpendicular line drawn on my target butt. Seemed helpful but it was hard to explain to the club about the 1″ wide, up and down black stripe that just appeared on all the 3D targets. 🙄 😀

      My score didn’t go up but that mighta had something to do with the lumps on my head.

      You are a wild man!

    • RalphRalph
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      Trying to shoot the stems out from under these yucca pods takes pretty darn good left and right concentration. Heck, the pods themselves ain’t easy.

      goo

      I actually shot two stems off today at about 25 yds. But like Byron Ferguson says, I ain’t gonna tell you how many shots it took. 🙂

      I only carry 4 arrows though:wink: But I shot the 4 twice.:)

    • Brennan Herr
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      Thought I would try it. I like it and it is a another good tool for practice.

      13 yards

    • wojo14
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      good shooting Brennan!

    • Jason Wesbrock
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      I didn’t watch the video, but agree with the others regarding the value of shooting at a vertical line. Folks have been doing that as a walk back tuning method for 30-some years that I can remember, and somewhere along the line it morphed into a form training exercise. I consider it kind of a hybrid blank bale method.

      With blank bale, all you are doing is ingraining the feeling of the shot into your subconscious. It’s a valuable tool, but where it falls short for me is the lack of quantifiable results to determine consistency. Targets don’t lie; if you group well you are shooting consistently. Blank bale offers no such feedback.

      Vertical misses (up and down) are caused by one set of problems; horizontal another. What shooting at a vertical or horizontal line allows you to do is isolate one set of variables at a time. If I’m having problems with vertical head position, high and low grip pressure (heeling the grip), maintaining my bow arm through the shot (dropping my arm), or sliding down out of my anchor, I shoot at a horizontal line. If I’m having problems with balanced expansion through the shot, grip torque, plucking the string, or string blur (horizontal head position), I shoot at a vertical line. It’s no coincidence that the target backstop in my basement had a big giant + on it in blue painters tape.

    • Brennan Herr
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      Thanks Jason I appreciate it.

      I agree Jay that the blind bail has it limits as well. I use it when I feel something isn’t right. I will shoot with my eyes closed and just feel the shoot. I like the lines because like You said it shows you what is going on. The horozontal line will be next.

      Great training tips. Thanks to all for sharing!!!

    • Stephen Graf
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      … Now instead of using a rope, try it with a thin piece of white cotton string. It will get you more focused…

    • grumpygrumpy
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      I have some fly tying thread you could use….

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