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    • jason samkowiak
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      Here is a video I just made about how to make the best lineman belts and tether systems for tree stand hunters. I show my favorite set up with a ascender unit, prussic knots, all the components, etc.

      This stuff is cheaper than the store bought models and so much better. Ultra light, affordable, designed for climbers, tough as nails, doesn’t hold water and will last a life time.

    • Doc Nock
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      As always, Jason, you surely do present a point in detail that is eazy to understand and ingest!

      Only and I mean ONLY thing about that frayed up climbing belt I like is that it is relatively LIMP so it doesn’t fight me. I’ve not MADE any, but the tether rope you speak of, my friend has at all his tree stands, and the prussic hitch, while excellent, either on a tether or climbing belt, can be a bear to adjust…

      Now…where were you with all this before arty ritis came to live and made tree stand hunting so challenging to sit for long periods?? 😀

      Realistically, I’m now not as spry as I once one… so it even makes more sense to be doubly safe even if I sit for short periods!

      Another fine job, Hoss!!! You’re kids got a great Dad!8)

    • jason samkowiak
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      Thanks Dave!

      The rope I shown is only stiff because its new and not used yet. It actually loosens up pretty quick. But I actually like it a bit stiff as it let’s me swing the loop up the tree really easy as I climb and doesn’t snag on anything.

      I agree prussic knots are a little tricky to adjust and you have to have all pressure off the tag ends to move it. They also require 2 hands to adjust. That’s the reason I came up with the ascender unit. That was about a 500 dollar trial and error experiment about 10 years ago that after trying many different things ended up as a simple ascender. The ropeman ascender is the best system I have ever found and I love it.

      Prussics are the next best thing but there is quite a gap between the 2.

    • Doc Nock
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      Jas

      I “dabbled” with some rope things years back… but was told there is stiff and limp…ones with texture and smooth surface for climbing. I was told one wants the textured surface to catch the prussic better.

      I’ve adjusted the climbing rope one-handed…by inching my off hand fingers and thumb forward a 1/4″ at a time while holding onto the tree (still strapped in) with the other hand to create slack…not ideal!!!

      At this juncture, while contemplating selling my beloved Non-Typical Stands made by Non-typical the RIGHT WAY (before Ameristep bought the patent rights and screwed it up for the attorney’s satisfaction), I don’t know if I want to retro or not…

      It’s good to know that stiff stuff loosens up some… and I remember when SOP first came out it had a web belt…not rope…and it was easier to flip up like a real lineman’s leather strap… you’re onto somehting there— as always!!!

    • Ralph
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      Hey Dave, you getting too old, Should knot be climbing too much. 😀

    • Stephen Graf
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      Ralph, you have a picture for every calamity don’t you? It’s just a little suspicious! 😯

    • Ralph
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      Steve, I remember what they all felt like. “Images in my mind.”:D

    • grumpy
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      Love that ropeman. used them for years working on slate roofs. ALL of the other ascenders were too bulky and/or too hard to move. Used prussic too, almost as good. If you use a prussic enough, you get so you can move them with one hand, but you have to use it constantly for weeks. All of the time I was up there I wore a climbing belt from a backpacking store, I liked Black Diamond. They have sizes/models for everyone. For ropes I used 9mm/DYNAMIC/DRY climbing ropes. Dynamic means if they catch you in a free fall they will stretch enough so they don’t break your back. If I am going to break my back, I would rather be on the ground than hanging from a rope. If the rope is used to PREVENT a fall it doesn’t matter, but why take a chance. Think about how embarrassed you would feel hanging from a rope with a broken back. How would they get you down? Yeah, I know, in THE GOOD THE BAD, AND THE UGLY, Clint Eastwood kept shooting the rope they were using to hang his buddy, but your buddies are NOT that accurate. Dry means they don’t soak up moisture and freeze. Most climbing shops (not the chain stores) will cut you a short piece – you don’t need 120 feet. The ropeman would last about a half a summer, before the ridges would wear out, and they would start to slip, and I replaced the climbing belt/ropes about once a year. Just to let you know.

    • Doc Nock
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      yeah, what cha’ll said!

    • jason samkowiak
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      Grumpy,

      Lots of good info thanks for adding all that.

      My ropeman has lasted about 9 years and doesn’t even look worn at all. I wonder if you were getting ashphult from the roofs in your line that was eating you ascender up. The rope should not wear down the aluminum.

      Only reason I just went to a new ascender is cause I’m greedy and just bought 5 of them so I designated a new one as mine…lol but my old one looks the same as the day I bought it 9 years ago.

      Dynamic line is something I know nothing about so I never messed with it. But you can get static line by the foot at a lot of places, I don’t know if you can buy dynamic by the foot.

      Thanks again for the info. Nice to hear from people that have climbing gear experience.

    • grumpy
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      No asphalt. I was a slater. Slate roofs only. The rope (with perhaps a little slate dust) wore out the ropeman. I was using it all day, every day, it didn’t rain the entire summer. Constantly moving up and down the rope. Nine hunting seasons is about the same wear as a week.

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