I just returned from the G Fred Asbell/ black widow shooting clinc and it was awesome. Fred Asbell and Ken Beck were great. If you want to improve your shooting skills I would definetly recomend this clinic. All the guys at blackwidow bows were outstanding, they have a top notch operration going on there. I think I will attend again next year it was well worth the money spent and it was awsome to met all the great people that love traditonal bow hunting as much as I do.