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    • W David McLendon
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    • Ken Taylor
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      A friend of mind sent me that a couple of weeks ago.

      Let’s hope that it’s not an insight into what it could be like for more animals in the future.

      As for now, it may be giving regular folks the idea that the animals we hunt are approached as easily as those in the video clip.

    • canadian tyler
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      I grew up close to Banff. Its a really unique place where there’s no hunting as it’s a national park, the elk know that the predators won’t come into town so they just stay there. The park wardens round up lots of elk every year and relocate them but they always seem to find their way back… and they’re certainly not scared of people in the least.

      On the flip side, tourists there do the same thing with the bears. Scary…

      Tyler

    • Bruce Smithhammer
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      Elk tearing up golf courses? +1

      Elk scaring the #%$* out of stupid tourists? +2

      Not getting to see a tourist get flipped on his arse by a rutting bull? – 1.

      Cops in shorts riding Segways? No comment.

      All in all, a cinematic tour de farce and two thumbs up.

      😀

    • David Petersen
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      David Mc — If it’s not too much trouble could you please provide a citation, book and page, etc., for the great Leopold quote? The problem with modern hunting is that folks want to sit at home on the comfy radiator (an analogy for all easy comforts) most of the time — then dart outdoors as quickly and easily as possible to “harvest” an animal and get back home before they miss the next TV ball game or start to feel the chill of reality. The hunting industry and mainstream horn-porn media are catering to these pretenders, as do the QDM brothels and most Outhouse Channel programs.

      Oops, sorry to hijack your thread. Back to Banff now, everyone. dp

    • runamuck
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      “horn-porn” love it hope you don’t mind if I use this label. It embodies everything that modern sportsman’s are.

      Erik

    • trapperDave
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      I loved the old gentleman tossin his ice as he ran LOL

      as for the segway police…..how ya supposed to respect that? LOL

    • W David McLendon
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      Dave that Leopold quote is from “A Sand County Almanac”, February, Good Oak, page six I beleive.

    • David Petersen
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      Thanks, David. I’ve read Leopold’s SCA at very least a dozen times, cover to cover, plus many more times for individual chapters, but obviously I’m due again. Almost every page contains an aphorism, advice on wise living and thinking, better than anything I could come up with in a lifetime of trying. To me, Aldo Leopold will always be the primary source-fountain from which flows all the best wisdom to guide hunting ethics, which ethics include the absolute necessity–both practically and spiritually–for sportsmen and women to work and speak actively to protect what’s left of wild nature and, like Aldo at the Shack, restore nature when possible. And to think not just of personal situations and biases, but “big picture and long run” on tough “Round River” issues such as wolves. My idea of heaven would be a week of wilderness campfires with Leopold. But I doubt my brain could handle the challenge and overload. What a man. dp

    • W David McLendon
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      Funny you mention that because I placed recently SCA on the top of the pile on my end table for a reread when I finish my current read which is a reread of Desert Solitaire.
      In my opinion lot more can be learned about dealing with some situations and the shaping of attitudes, ethics and philosophy by looking back to men like Leopold, Emerson and Stuart than by looking foward for guidance or inspiration these days it seems.

    • Bruce Smithhammer
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      Just finished rereading it myself after too many years. I’d forgotten just how profound and visionary virtually every page is.

      It’s one of a small handful of books I should re-read on an annual basis.

    • Homer
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      Funny how threads tend to warp around, sometimes going sour and others, like this one, taking sweet turns. David Mc, reading Leopold and Abbey’s best books back to back, your tastes in both literature and philosophy sure do agree with mine. Except for the scene where Abbey throws a stick and kills a rabbit, which itself implies some serious thought about man’s proper relationship to nature, DS has nothing to do with hunting as we love it. But it has everything to do with hunting for truth and beauty and personal peace in life. And I think it’s one of the most beautifully written nonfiction books in the English language. (Richard Nelson’s “The Island Within” is another, and it is about hunting, if not bowhunting.) Now, to get us back on topic, sort of, I doubt that either Abbey or Leopold ever baited anything bigger than mice 😛 Homer

    • W David McLendon
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      Homer I’m thinkin’ it was a rock, but I agree that was a little hitch for me leaving him for the buzzards. Fresh meat, I’d have scooped him up and roasted him over a fire and toasted to him with some George Dickel.
      Ed would have been a hell of a cool guy to know though I’m sure. DP is lucky in that respect.

    • rnorris
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      Thank you for this thread…it prompted me to order a copy of Sand County Almanac this morning.

    • epenfold
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      If I saw the background of the video correctly, I live about an hour from where it was taken. I have seen the reality of the tourist that they protrayed multiple times. The truly sad part of this that the elk in the video move throughout the multiple areas where elk hunting is not legal so they have no fear of humans. A double edged sword unscared tourist, and unscared elk. The other thing that I have watched happen is the vacation homes that are going up all over town taking away hunting spots that helped thing the herds, the ranch owners are selling to individual lots.

    • Clay Hayes
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      Another very interesting book, “The River of the Mother of God”, is a collection of Leopolds unpublished essays dating back to high school. It’s interesting to see, through his writing, how his view change and develope through his life.

      ch

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