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    • RalphRalph
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      What do you guys use for glue for the inserts on your carbon arrows. Can you use hot melt OK if you just heat the point and insert, not the shaft of course. I’m particular about my broadhead and nock alignment so permanent stuff is not really an option for me if I’m going to use shafts for hunting and target shooting. I need to be able to rotate my insert.

    • Troy Breeding
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      Ralph,

      If your going to be using BH’s that are not glue-on with adpt. then set your inserts to the shafts with the BH’s and number the shafts to the BH’s. Afterwards you can unscrew the BH and screw in the field point.

      IMHO, trying to use anything that is less than permanent could be a problem when working with carbon.

      Troy

    • Jason Wesbrock
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      R2 wrote: What do you guys use for glue for the inserts on your carbon arrows. Can you use hot melt OK if you just heat the point and insert, not the shaft of course. I’m particular about my broadhead and nock alignment so permanent stuff is not really an option for me if I’m going to use shafts for hunting and target shooting. I need to be able to rotate my insert.

      Ferr-L-Tite works just fine (with the possibly exclusion of HIT inserts). I’ve been using it on carbons for decades with absolutely no problems.

    • David Petersen
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      What Jason said. I use point glue for the inserts, and hot-melt for screw-in adapters. In both cases, esp. with the points and adapters, it’s critical to clean both parts before gluing, with rubbing alcohol or acetone (use a q-tip to get down inside the shafts and points). Vodka would probably work (for cleaner, not glue) but I don’t keep the stuff around. 😛

    • Ireland
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      R2 wrote: What do you guys use for glue for the inserts on your carbon arrows. Can you use hot melt OK if you just heat the point and insert, not the shaft of course. I’m particular about my broadhead and nock alignment so permanent stuff is not really an option for me if I’m going to use shafts for hunting and target shooting. I need to be able to rotate my insert.

      Contact the company that produced your carbon shaft. Most carbon producers will not want you using hot melt glue(even if it does work). The majority suggest a slow setting 24 hour epoxy glue.

      Ireland

    • Stephen Graf
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      Just 2 things to add:

      – Broadhead alignment on carbon arrows is done by rotating the broadhead on the broadhead insert (which is best installed using hot glue). Just warm it up and twist clockwise till you get what you want.

      – Score the inside of the carbon shaft before gluing. I use a piece of 60 grit sandpaper wrapped around a small screwdriver. Insert and rotate.

      – I have found the gorilla glue brand super glue works well and is cheap enough. I have also used bohning’s “insert iron” which works great except that the bottle goes bad way before it is used up.

    • RalphRalph
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      Looks to me like my best way out of this is to use broadhead adapters. I’ve never had need with wood arrows of course and I have some screw ins that work great for my aluminum shafts. If I buy some adapters then I can use my plethora :lol:, love to get a chance to use that word, of glue on broadheads and go for it. Simple me, simple is, simple does but I also have a good chance complicating simplicity but we’re not talking plumbing here.

      Thanks for info guys. Now if the shafts would ever arrive!!!!

    • Troy Breeding
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      Ireland wrote: [quote=R2]What do you guys use for glue for the inserts on your carbon arrows. Can you use hot melt OK if you just heat the point and insert, not the shaft of course. I’m particular about my broadhead and nock alignment so permanent stuff is not really an option for me if I’m going to use shafts for hunting and target shooting. I need to be able to rotate my insert.

      Contact the company that produced your carbon shaft. Most carbon producers will not want you using hot melt glue(even if it does work). The majority suggest a slow setting 24 hour epoxy glue.

      Ireland

      I have to whole heartly agree with this statement. Using hot melt with carbons can break down the epoxy resin that hold the carbon fibers together.

      Yes,,, people have used it without problems, but why take the chance. If the manufactures are against it then there must be something to it.

      Troy

    • Jason Wesbrock
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      Of course there’s something to it. Manufacturers’ instructions and warning labels are written from the assumption that the average consumer has zero common sense. It’s called CYA (cover your a–). If I was a carbon arrow manufacturer I wouldn’t tell my customers they could use hot melt either. Sure as heck, someone would crank the torch on high and lay the end of the shaft in the flame like it’s an Easton Aluminum. And then when he barbecued his shafts, I’d end up having to replace them. It’s a lot easier (and cheaper) to tell them to use epoxy or Crazy Glue than to deal with people who can’t figure out something as simple as using gentle heat on the tip of a field point.

    • Troy Breeding
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      I look at it as ” better to be safe than sorry”.

      Troy

    • Ireland
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      Troy Breeding wrote: I look at it as ” better to be safe than sorry”.

      Troy

      Excellent answer Troy!!!

      Ireland

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