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    • Clay Hayes
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        Probably a waste of breath on this crowd, but maybe some of you can pick up a useful tip from this new vid covering back tension and my method of aiming.

      • drew4fur
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          Hey Clay, good video

          Fundamentals are worth practicing and re-visiting no matter how far along an archer has advanced in there skill. I’m re-working my shooting after a ~5 year absence so this video is much appreciated. I like how you mention your blend of hill/ferguson styles; the reference is handy for those of us who have an understanding of how those archers executed their marksmanship. I also find that instinctive shooting is conceptually/philosophically easy to understand (e.g., throwing baseballs, rocks, apples, etc.), but very difficult to execute consistently.

          I went out to the back yard today and tried to focus on a few of the things that you mentioned, particularly on consistent back tension, lining the form/body up with the intended point of impact and the bow arm/hand having a “jump toward” the target. All helpful elements to be conscious of during practice!

          Funny side note, your fur silencer breaks free of your string at 00:09:04

        • David Coulter
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            Hi Clay,

            Another concise and informative video. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. I don’t use the tip of my arrow to aim until I get back around 30 yards. I’m going to give it a swing a little closer and see how it goes. Thanks! dwc

          • Col Mike
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              Clay

              You have out did yourself again. Great video. Some of us, of course, don’t need that as we shoot consistently and accurately 8) But occasionally I’m asked to help with shooting skills and this will help.:D

              Seriously –great job again.

              Semper Fi

              Mike

            • Stephen Graf
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                I think taking video’s of yourself shooting really helps. I sure wish I had a camera that would allow me to slow the motion down… One of these days, I’m gonna hit that barn 😳 🙄

                Any advice on a camera that will slow the motion down?

              • grumpy
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                  Steve is just too fast for the camera!!

                  GREAT video Steve, really neat aerial shots. Must have taken forever to get that bird to stay still with the camera.

                • David Coulter
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                    Steve, one thing I learned early about being able to hit a barn… stand inside. dwc

                  • James Harvey
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                      dwcphoto wrote: Steve, one thing I learned early about being able to hit a barn… stand inside. dwc

                      Don’t forget to close the door… that gets me every time 😉

                    • Stephen Graf
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                        That’s good advice! Next time I shall enter before shooting.

                      • Charles Ek
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                          Steve Graf wrote: I think taking video’s of yourself shooting really helps. I sure wish I had a camera that would allow me to slow the motion down… One of these days, I’m gonna hit that barn 😳 🙄

                          Any advice on a camera that will slow the motion down?

                          My iPhone 6 Plus records pretty good slow-motion video. I’ll try to post up some shooting video to demonstrate that. Meanwhile, here’s a ceiling fan rotating at top speed:

                        • Stix
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                            Thanks Clay! One issue I constantly needed to be reminded of….: back tension.

                          • Clay Hayes
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                              Steve Graf wrote: Any advice on a camera that will slow the motion down?

                              The GoPro Hero4 will record 240 frames per second. When you stick that into a 30fps composition it comes out to be 12.5% or real time. That’s what the slow motion here was done with and that’s about as good as it gets until you get into the cameras costing 10 grand or more.

                              Some of the newer smart phones have slow motion recording but I haven’t played with them.

                            • Clay Hayes
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                                eidsvolling wrote: [quote=Steve Graf]I think taking video’s of yourself shooting really helps. I sure wish I had a camera that would allow me to slow the motion down… One of these days, I’m gonna hit that barn 😳 🙄

                                Any advice on a camera that will slow the motion down?

                                My iPhone 6 Plus records pretty good slow-motion video. I’ll try to post up some shooting video to demonstrate that. Meanwhile, here’s a ceiling fan rotating at top speed:

                                http://youtube.com/watch?v=cmHIYufmAps

                                Rotate that phone so you’re capturing on the horizontal and you can avoid those black bars on the sides.:wink:

                              • Stephen Graf
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                                  Thanks for the camera tips. I’ll check them out.

                                • Charles Ek
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                                    Clay Hayes wrote: Rotate that phone so you’re capturing on the horizontal and you can avoid those black bars on the sides.:wink:

                                    Indeed. It requires more effort than I could summon while lounging on the sofa.

                                    BTW, the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus record at 240 fps and play at 30 fps as well. Plus I can order a pizza, play the latest excellent vid from Twisted Stave Media and shop for deeply discounted GoPro Heroes all at the same time. 😉

                                  • David Coulter
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                                      How can you do that laying on the couch? I would have to lay down when I’m done with all that. Seriously, neat tool in the right hands. dwc

                                    • Mark Turton
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                                        Interesting description of back tension, something I’ve always struggled to understand will be putting your suggestion into practice tomorrow.

                                        Mark.

                                      • Clay Hayes
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                                          eidsvolling wrote: [quote=Clay Hayes]Rotate that phone so you’re capturing on the horizontal and you can avoid those black bars on the sides.:wink:

                                          Indeed. It requires more effort than I could summon while lounging on the sofa.

                                          BTW, the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus record at 240 fps and play at 30 fps as well. Plus I can order a pizza, play the latest excellent vid from Twisted Stave Media and shop for deeply discounted GoPro Heroes all at the same time. 😉

                                          :shock:I was really impressed by the video quality on my nephews new android phone. It does the same thing as the iphone. pretty impressive.

                                        • Mark Turton
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                                            Well tomorrow finally arrived, could not have hit a cow on backside with a shovel. No reflection on Clay’s video, operator error, went back to basics and finally shot three good arrows and packed up.

                                            Mark.

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