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in reply to: Left Wing or Right Wing Helical? #18654
STEVE can always count on you to stink things up LOL:D
I have never run specific test like you to see if there is a difference between right and left wing and loose tips. I shoot right wing feathers and still have to check my field tips to see if they are loose as I mentioned. I suspect you are correct that it has to do more with impact or oscillation as you state than direction of spin.
However, in my mind right wing feathers spinning the arrow right … in theory would be better than the arrow spinning left.As stated I have never had any one report left wing feathers causing a problem with broadheads . It is not something to worry about just something you could do if setting up new arrows. Why not cover all bases. Once the arrow is loosed at a live animal all kinds of crazy thing reportable happen.:x
in reply to: Left Wing or Right Wing Helical? #18176David Petersen wrote: Fellers,
I am reminded that when I tune new broadheads, one or two shots each before a good sharpening for hunting, the heads tend to loosing with every shot (into soft dirt). But why not fine-fine-tune? emotion.
DAVE Thanks for the kind words……Your tuning of the hunting arrow reminds me of something Dr. Ed said or wrote that when hunting the first arrow out of the quiver should be an arrow that was completely tested as you have done.
Until I digested those words I did not. I always shot broadheads for practice and used the same arrow configuration that I would hunt with when practicing but did not test the first arrow out of the quiver……Instead I would pick out the newest arrow and new broadhead for the first arrow thinking that new was better. Ed said you never know with new if you have a defective broadhead (other than a TuffHead LOL:D )or arrow,insert or adapter. It makes a lot of sense.. Later I started to dedicate 2 arrows that I glued solid (broadhead ,insert,and adapter)and tested for the first arrows out of the quiver. No more virgin arrows .:D
in reply to: Left Wing or Right Wing Helical? #18019For those that choose left wing feathers a drop of locktite or glue on the threads of a screw in style adapter will give peace of mind.
I carry everything to extreme trying to eliminate any possible problem. As stated above I use right wing feathers but I also JB weld the adapter screw and the adapter to the broadhead and insert in the arrow hopping nothing moves.
in reply to: Left Wing or Right Wing Helical? #18010colmike wrote: Joe
Makes sense–I hope someone like Doc A , Dave, Troy, or Moe says something. So why did you sell me left bevel tuffheads without this little tidbit of info?:evil:
I’m getting ready to order some new arrows,carbon, and 300tuffheads and was gonna get my standard left wing–so your saying right wing may remove another point of failure?
Mike
Mike this is a finesse thing. If you told me you were going to switch arrows or starting from scratch I would recommend using right wing feathers. There are a lot of archers using left wing feathers and are not loosing any sleep over it. If I remember correctly Dave Petersen shoots left wing feathers. I never heard from him or for that matter any one else that that has happened to them. Like I say it is a finesse thing when one is striving for perfection. In theory that could happen.
When shooting right wing feathers (by the way I shoot left handed ) with field tips I am always checking them as they break loose repeatedly hitting the target. Like trying to break a tight nut or bolt …some times a good whack with a hammer breaks them loose. In theory when a broadhead hits a bone it could come loose I want my arrows to be spinning right.
That is another reason to match the bevel on single bevel broadheads to you feather. ” RIGHTY TIGHTY LEFTY LOOSEE “ they taught me that in the ARMY
Marines evidently were busy learning other stuff LOL Sorry I could not resist that :D:D:D
If you want to return your broadheads because you want to switch I will be happy to replace them.:D
in reply to: Questions on tradtiional archery #17960Moebow wrote: A footed arrow does a couple things for you. First, it strengthens the point end of the shaft. With wood shafts, when the arrow hits, the resultant forces will focus themselves right where the point joins with the shaft. The most common place for wood arrows to break is right behind the point.
A footing is another way to add weight forward and increase strength behind the point. Again, wood shafts are not very user friendly to really high point weights ( high FOC configuration) so a footing helps here too.
Tapering a shaft also contributes to weight forward, although not to the degree of a hardwood footing. Many also believe that tapering aids with bow clearance. I personally don’t see much benefit to tapering but that’s just me.
Either or both methods are pretty nice, increase the appeal of the arrow but are work intensive if doing it yourself or add a fair dollar amount if purchased. Totally up to you.
Arne
Arne covered the reason for tapered and footed arrows very well. Some think that tapered arrows create less drag during penetration which might be another advantage.
in reply to: Left Wing or Right Wing Helical? #17951THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE TO SHOOTING RIGHT WING FEATHERS PARTICULAR IF YOU ARE USING SCREW ON ADAPTERS IN ALUM. OR CARBON ARROWS. THE ARROW WILL BE ROTATING RIGHT WHEN TI HITS THE INTENDED TARGET AND WILL TIGHTEN .POTENTIALLY A ARROW SPINNING LEFT CAN LOOSEN THE BROADHEAD/ARROW MAKEUP.
in reply to: poll on release #37024Shot split for 30 years with a tab than developed problems with fingers went to three under using a tab ………do not notice finger problems as much. My shooting has stayed about the same “hit and miss”..:D
in reply to: Happy BD Dr. Ed! #46289David P
Thanks for calling attention to Dr Ed’s birthday….Nice picture you posted…. If you recall Ed posted a picture of :Miss Claus” that hung in his cabin for the holidays….I would bet that Ed is slow taking his Christmas decorations down what do you think.? LOL:D:D
in reply to: Happy BD Dr. Ed! #46243ED…..HAPPY BIRTHDAY Saving the WT 101 for you at Compton Lifting a Tullamore Dew in you honor. After all if “Every Man I s Entitled to their Dew” (Tullamore Dew whisky slogan) you certainly are.:D
in reply to: 300 Tuffhead testimony #26430Jans
I noticed that the last deer you killed there was snow on the ground also…..Does the snow ever melt in South Dakota…LOL:D:D
in reply to: 300 Tuffhead testimony #26425JANS
Congratulations …..great way to finish up the season.
Thanks for the report and kind words about the TuffHead
in reply to: Tuffhead lost and found #26419[b]SKINNER[/b
With the TuffHead being almost indestructible future sales are dependent on lost broadheads. You are not cooperating….LOL:D
Happy for you I hate to loose any thing especially a piece of hunting equipment.
in reply to: Tuffhead testing #9112Dave
You are right. Some times a person does not see the obvious when it is right in front of their eyes!:D
in reply to: Tuffhead testing #9046JIM I have switched to JB weld (reg cure not quick cure)
for gluing inserts etc. Works great. I have had same problems with reg epoxy that you experience.
TROY’S suggestion of smooth on is excellent it is a great epoxy but like he mentions it is not offered in small containers or tubes.
DR ED Ed you are always right and you explain and demonstrate your views so well…. Just a suggestion it might not hurt you to get out of the cabin more often.:D:D
MERRY CHRISTMAS
in reply to: Tuffhead testing #8430jstamlin wrote: Has anyone tried the Titanium inset that Tuff Head carries?
JSTAMLIN Thanks for calling attention to the 75 grain titanium adapter that we offer on our web site.
This adapter is made from grade 5 titanium which has twice the tensile strength of steel. All titanium adapters are not equal …lessor grades provide lightness but not much more strength than mild steel. Grade five about as high as you can go in toughness and still machine it…
I have done extensive testing using the 300 TH and this adapter and have not had a failure. I have others that are testing it also and have had no negative reports.
This adapters has given me more encouragement than any thing I have experimented with.The bending problem has plagued me and others for several years it is a common problem. I believe the grade 5 titanium is the answer.
I am in the process of having a adapter/insert for a 5/16 arrow made from grade 5 titanium tentative that will weigh 200 grains but will hopefully be 3 inches long so it would be an adapter/insert/internal footing. i am excited about that hopefully it will test well……
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