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in reply to: Nuther Chuck down… (Now with Pic) #18359
i was taught when growing up not to shoot anything you were not prepared to eat.Just wondering what you recipe is for Nuther Chuck LOL Just having fun with you .Nice shooting:D:D
in reply to: What draw weight would you recommend? #48253Most bows are rated at 28 inches I belive this is a AMO standard. If your draw is 26 inches you probably draw close to 6 lbs lighter than the advertised weight.Or you could be drawing a heavier weight if you draw 30 inches.
The best advice is to try several bows and chose the heaviest bow you can draw comfortably.
Good advice has been given choose a bow you can hold at full draw for a reasonable time. 5 to 10 seconds.
in reply to: Arrow specs and charts… NEED HELP #47787Steve Graf wrote: 3Rivers sells test kits; of 3 arrows. For example, you can get a Carbon Express Test kit with a 150, 250, and 350 arrow. They do it by brand.
I guess you are talking a test kit of 1 arrow?
Being an arrow distributor can be a tough business. The minimum order numbers are pretty high… But you could become the first business to sell the compete Ashby Arrow with all the bells and whistles: High FOC, 650 grain total wt, Turbulator, A&H Fletching, Brass Inserts, and Aluminum Collar around the front end.
Steve I was thinking of a test kit of three arrows.
I am in the exploratory stage right now. like every thing else there are always complications.
I am sure the arrow bussiness is competive and complicated about like the broadhead bussiness:D .I am thinking I would just sell test kits once the person decides on a arrow they can go to a arrow dealer and purchase from them . .It would be more of a service to our customers than a high profit item.
Still in thinking stage it might not work out.I have looked at a lot of things that never materialized .
in reply to: Arrow specs and charts… NEED HELP #46606Fletcher wrote:
I haveno desire to mess with carbon arrows, Joe, but carbon test kits might be a good add on to the Tuffhead line. Test arrows, whether carbon, alum or wood, are absolutely the best way to get the right spine.
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Ed and Fletcher that is a good suggestion.I am going to give it strong consederation. Thanks!
in reply to: Arrow specs and charts… NEED HELP #44764Ed thanks for your input. You are right but trying to get arrow companies to make sample kits for testing .That maybe in the same category as developing a chart.Not about to happen.:D
in reply to: Arrow specs and charts… NEED HELP #41876two4hooking wrote: Try out Stu miller’s calculator. I think you can go up very high in point weight:
I have tried Stu’s calculator and find it overwhelming, I am looking for a fast reference that can be posted on the web site so people can look at something visual instead of interactive, I find that switching to FOC arrows is sometimes monumental to the costumer and they walk away rather than experiment. My goal is to simplify the process getting more converts to heavy arrows and FOC. Thanks for the suggestion in the end Stu’s calculator may be that only alternative.
in reply to: "Brave" review #40565MY grandkids took me to see BRAVE. I thought it very entertaining The kids loved it .All seven of my grand kids have BLack Rhino bows so they were pumped.
There is a great scene in the movie showing the archers paradox I got to use that as a teaching moment with the kids.:D Not everything is fun and games:D
in reply to: Calculating FOC: question for Dr. Ashby #37219The answer to your question is they both have the same accuracy and both can be used .If you and your friends use the broadhead on method than you can compare apples to apples.Or arrow FOC to each other’s arrows.
If you want to compare to Dr.AShby’s findings you have to use the AMO method as this is what he used in his testing.
I recommend using AMO so when you tell me you have a 30% FOC and you got certain results like cracked a moose scapula in half I will not only be impressed I can relate it to Ashby’s studies How ever if you were using the broadhead on method you would actually have a higher FOC when reporting 30%:D
in reply to: Calculating FOC: question for Dr. Ashby #36949“Adding length to the arrow by including the broadhead length or field tip length will always result in a lower FOC.”
I don’t know what I missed in your sample but according what I just wrote your measurement of the FOC with the broadhead on should be less than the FOC with the field tip on.
The balance point of the two arrows should be the same as the tips are basically the same weight…. the broadhead being longer should yield a smaller FOC.
I am a little confused by your findings but that is normal I walk around half confused anyway 😀 I am going back to the drawing board:D
in reply to: Calculating FOC: question for Dr. Ashby #36943If one is to compare and correlate your arrow FOC to the Dr Ashby’s finding and theorems then you have to use the same measurement standards that he used to do his test. That is the AMO standard of FOC measurement.
Adding length to the arrow by including the broadhead length or field tip length will always result in a lower FOC.
I would agree with you and Rick it seems that the point should be included in the calculations.
in reply to: new to archery too #34680Moebow wrote: GBlue, I think Joe means your string arm elbow, not your bow arm. You look pretty good, have you had an instructor or are you self taught? I agree, that elbow is high and that can do strange things to how you hold the string and release it. Under my avatar is a link to some videos I did a while back that may give you some visual cues to help out.
Also, as has been said, and especially in the beginning you will have good times of shooting and times that you feel you can’t do anything right. Hang in there, and remember that “us guys” were able to do it, SOOOO….
Moebow you are right I ment string arm.
thanks I am sure GBlue was completly confused.
in reply to: new to archery too #34521While it is hard to critque a persons shooting form from a few pictures The firts thing I notice is your elbow on the bow arm is quite high.
A high elbow will give erratic shots.It also is a indicator that you are not useing your back muscles .
Try to keep your bow arm level and squeeze that shoulder blad back
If you have acess to a video camera filming yourself whie shooting is a good way to analize your form
Welcome to traditional archery.The fun is just begining.
in reply to: New Kanati #15751BEAUTIFUL BOW. ONE CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH BOWS.:D
in reply to: MA and FOC in Sioux buffalo arrows #10357I don’t see any tanto tip on those puppies 😀
Wolf I would have to agree with David P.getting a arrow over the 650 grain totsl weight is the single best thing you could do . Using wood arrows as he suggested should get you there. If you can gain FOC in the process more the better.
The 650 grain arrow threshhold is the most important factor in penetratio.FOC, and type of broadhead you use are frosting on the cake.They improve penatration but not as dranactically as total weight over 650 grains.
Used in conjection with each other is nearing perfection.
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