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in reply to: 40 # recurve and Ultra-EFOC arrow search #40787

I did set up arrows with 430 tip wt. They flew straight after I took off my beaver balls string silencers and the rubber mushrooms. They flew straight most of the time accept when I did not have good form and release. Then they acted stiff spine. Because I am a beginner the fact that Sapcut and his better half 😀 already did the work for me, was a big help. When my form becomes more consistent I will be able to fine tune my set up.

I feel we should have threads set up for each bow wt with info on what arrow set up works for each as a general starting point. So if you have a 50# bow filling in a form on the thread with all the necessary info for the experienced archers on this site would be very helpful and we can then easily monitor how someones set up worked when they make a kill. This may be a good way to increase the data that Dr. ED needs. Just my two cents as a newbie.

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: New Ashby update just posted; health issues #40771

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to Dr. Ed.

I had an 18 yard shot on a doe who dropped when he heard my arrow. It went and stuck into the spine. I took a second shot which hit the vitals. The doe was dead within minutes. We never no how a deer will react to the sound of a shot. I agree with Doc. We do not always get a well placed shot even with good aim. Every advantage we can have to assure a quick death is are ethical duty. It takes work to change your set up to get ultra EFOC and a heavy threshold arrow. A prayer like my signature needs to be backed up with the necessary work. Just IMHO.

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: 40 # recurve and Ultra-EFOC arrow search #36817

Thanks Sapcut. I just was rereading the bare shaft tuning article on the ACS site. It says ignore what the bareshafts look like in flight. Just see how they group with the arrows with feathers. Maybe that’s my problem I was looking at the arrow kicking nock left in flight. Bare in mind I shoot lefty. I will follow the instructions. If your spouses arrows work and the ones Dr. Asby work with about 415-420 up front I should be fine.

Thanks I will keep everyone posted.

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: 40 # recurve and Ultra-EFOC arrow search #35749

Thanks Sapcut

I wonder if the gpi is the key. The GT expedition hunters I am trying to use are 7.4 gpi I understand the spine is the same. I will go check my bow wt again at the pro shop. I know my Predator II 20/40 .600 arrows with a 145 field tip bare shafted slightly weak. But I put on 5″ feathers and they flew great. Now that is 420 up front with your wife’s arrows.

Sapcut did you bare shaft tune them?

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in reply to: 40 # recurve and Ultra-EFOC arrow search #35316

My poundage is 40 lbs. I took the bow to my pro shop and they put it on the scale at 29 inches. I was reading 2008 Ashby study update report. He has a GT ultra 3555 arrow with 415 tip wt which tuned correctly. I am going to set up my arrows the same. I have 30″ BOP. I think he said he has 27 ” BOP arrows. I’ll let you know how it goes. I am trying to produce a ultra FOC arrows.

Thanks for your help

Tom.

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: 40 # recurve and Ultra-EFOC arrow search #35176

Ed Zachary wrote:
You don’t mention your draw length, I’m assuming it’s around 29″, with a 30″ BOP?

Thanks for your help Ed.

My draw length for a compound bow was determined to be 29 inches. Ed I do not know what BOP is.

I appreciate your ideas I will try them this afternoon.

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: 40 # recurve and Ultra-EFOC arrow search #35146

Steve Graf wrote: How much left?

I’m a little confused by your description of spine. The arrows are gold tips right? Gold Tip measures their spine by poundage range like 55-75. Beaman measures their spine in inches of deflection like .500. Are they beaman’s or gold tips?

My gut tells me a 700+ grain arrow just won’t do well out of a 40 lb bow no matter what you do. Mostly because the bow will take so long to relax, giving you a lot of time after release to adversely affect the arrow’s flight. Just a guess.

Thanks very much for your input, Steve.

They are Gold Tip 3555 Expedition Hunters. According to the Gold Tip web site the followings specs are listed.
3555 Black 7.4gpi .500″ spine 30″ length

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in reply to: Robin Hood #34459

Agincourt is a great book. The English Long Bowman were great for real. I think everyone loves a hero who robs from the rich and gives to the poor. But only the evil rich and the worthy poor.

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in reply to: Most Admired Predators #33332

I saw a wolf for the first time a few months ago. It was on my way to work in the early morning. I was passing through an area of state forest and he ran across the road about 25 yards in front of me. He did not look at my truck. He appeared not to care about my truck. He just kept looking straight ahead where he was going with a determined look on his face. Just like he was from a parallel universe where cars and trucks do not exist. Awesome sight. It would have been scary if I was on foot and in his world. 😕

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in reply to: "Wow, now THAT'S a VERY old bow!" #33328

Mark

Where you at Hastings too? Thankyou for your service.8)

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: "Wow, now THAT'S a VERY old bow!" #33326

Mind is old but looks new.:D I am new to trad but look…:D

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in reply to: help on bow id.? #33310

Welcome to the forums. This is a great place to find out all sorts of good info.

Tom

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in reply to: Looking for advice on draw weight #33304

purehunter wrote:
I’m in good shape but middleaged (43) but I think I can get a good 10 years out of the bow before I wear out. I know there are a number of people on this site who still shoot bows of this draw weight and are older than I am. I hunt muledeer, elk, pigs and whatever else I can get a tag for. It would be nice to have a “big bow”. Yes, I have been reading Dr. Ashby’s reports and am currently working on a good arrow setup for my recurve. Your opinions would be appreciated as I may pull the trigger on this deal soon.

Thank you,
purehunter

Purehunter

Just wanted to let you know that now a days middle age does not start until 60. 😀 I know because I am 61.

I do have a sore shoulder. Felt like I poped something in it when I was doing a pulling down motion with my arms on exercise equipment. Keep forgetting to bring it up at the Doctor’s office. I am glad things worked out for you.

Tom

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in reply to: Looking for advice on draw weight #33303

Danny Klee wrote: Then I found a book on exercising for archery consisting of various weight lifting exercises and other exercises intended to strengthen those muscles used in shooting any bow.
Dan

Dan,

Could you tell us what the name of the book was:?:

[tom-wisconsin]

in reply to: Looking for advice on draw weight #33299

P.J. Petiniot wrote:

While rehabbing my shoulder I shot completely through an adult white tail doe with a bow that was 38#s at my draw–Sharp broad heads and arrows flying true have no problems with deer sized animals–

I think 53-70 is a very big jump–I have done it before and it can cause form problems as well as shoulder problems if you are not careful-

PJ

Just wondering if the shoulder problem was caused by drawing the bow?

Tom

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