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in reply to: Carbon Express Heritage 250 too weak? #28413
Thank you my friends. Yes, this seems so strange that so many folks can use these 250’s with nice heavy weight up front and still be ok. I went back out today and raised my brace height up to 8 1/4 inches and got my bareshaft to fly straight, but that is still with only 100 grains up front, and I really wanted to have at least 125 grain heads. Now, I DO think that I draw about 29 1/2 inches, with fast flight string and string jax, all which probably makes my bow shoot more like a 55# recurve rather than a 50. I must release a little weird or something too, but it isn’t affecting my accuracy or consistency, so I guess that is good. I might just go ahead and get the 350’s next time and just keep em long with extra weight up front. Just seems so weird that I was once shooting 150’s out of this bow with straight bareshaft, and over the year have changed enough to make these 250’s weak showing! Isn’t this the fun of our hobby though?!?
in reply to: Scent control? #34361Forager,
Holy Cow, that makes PERFECT sense! You just put me more at ease with this dilemma! I do hunt from a stand, although, more than anything, I want to get away from that and get on the ground.
in reply to: Scent control? #33444I absolutely DO hunt the wind, and yes, I WAS talking about all the “magic” sprays on the shelf. The problem we have here in South Georgia is what was said earlier. SWIRLING wind!! I have watched the wind detector powder literally swirl around me in a circle! It is NOTHING but trees here, and coming from North Dakota as a younger man, I am really missing that air moving in one blasted direction!
in reply to: Scent control? #30501Thank you gentlemen. Much food for thought!
in reply to: Scent control? #30214Seabass wrote: I concur David! I was talking more about the “stuff” you buy at Walmart or. Bass Pro and spray all your clothes and equipment with. I definitely try to touch as little as possible, although rubber boots are a no go for me. Kind of got messed up feet and have to be a bit more selective on my footwear. I do, however, saturate those boots with the “scent killer” stuff.
Also, the stuff I use, just on my feet, is supposed to be all natural.
in reply to: Scent control? #30211I concur David! I was talking more about the “stuff” you buy at Walmart or. Bass Pro and spray all your clothes and equipment with. I definitely try to touch as little as possible, although rubber boots are a no go for me. Kind of got messed up feet and have to be a bit more selective on my footwear. I do, however, saturate those boots with the “scent killer” stuff.
in reply to: Practicing the "Cold Shot" #27629mhay wrote: Dang it man ,,,this cool air has got my arthritis workin’ overtime . My cold shots so far today ,,,,well ,,,,I couldn’t hit a barn wall if I was shootin’ from inside the da’gum thing.
Returning from another squirrel hunt this morning ,,,no shots available while hunting,,,I paused on top a low , but very steep ridge , which abruptly goes from near vertical to a flat corn field . I nock a blunt ,,,pic a specific leaf on the ground at the bottom ,,,,,release,,,,’bout a foot to the right . Probably 20 yards .
I wouldn’t shoot at a deer from that spot by no means , but that shot this morning was very disturbing .
Yesterdays shooting was perty good ,,,,,,,,,,,,today ? Like I never shot a bow before :D.
I think it was the Grey Archer that said on days like that the best think you can do is just put the bow up and sleep it off! Messes with your head. No worries, I am sure it will come back fast. I have days like that at least a couple times a month, and I shoot daily, usually for a minimum of 30 minutes…*Just saw your last post. I concur!! If I shoot much LONGER than 30 minutes I start spraying arrows all over creation!
in reply to: Help my poor shoulder please! #42636I want to thank all of you for the advice! I am looking into all of your comments to see what is my best option, as I want to be able to keep doing this when I am 90! Man, I just love recurve!!! 😀
in reply to: Help my poor shoulder please! #34809ausjim wrote: [quote=Seabass]Thanks Jim. The pain is (or seems to be) right inside the joint itself. In that little hollow of the shoulder when raised.
If that is the case I would definitely stop shooting till the pain settles. What Matt said above is right as well, there is value in treating shooting a bow like any other resistance exercise. Perform a small number of good form, focused repititions, have a rest for a few minutes, do another set, rest, do a set then don’t do it again for another couple of days.
Your shoulder works in funny little ways shooting a bow. When I first started shooting recurves I was doing sets of 10 over grasp heaves with a 45lb weight hanging off me (I weigh about 200lbs), 100lb dumb bell rows etc, I still started with a 35# bow. I know it’s hard to resist shooting heaps when you’re trying to develop a skill, but you need to give your body the chance to develop as well.
There’s a story about an ancient Greek wrestler who one day got a calf. He carried the calf where ever he went on his shoulders. No big deal. The calf grew every day and the wrestler never noticed that she was getting heavier. Before he knew it he was carrying around a cow on his shoulders and he was the strongest man in Greece.
A tall tale for sure, but the point is, incremental increases in load over an extended period is the way to go 😉
I know a really neat, light weight exercise to strengthen and gain range of motion in your shoulders as well, but it’s hard to describe. I’ll see if I can find a youtube video and post it.
But seriously, when it’s not muscular pain, I’d just stop and rest the joint.
Jim
That makes a lot of sense! I really never looked at shooting as an exercise, in and of itself. I did a much smaller set yesterday, and feel considerably better today. I will take your advice and start resting, at least a day, between sets. You are right, it is mentally tough taking a day off when you are trying to work up a skill!! Thank you very much! It is amazing to be able to come to this site and get such help!
in reply to: Help my poor shoulder please! #34122MathewC wrote: I would add that just like any other sport, short but frequent training sessions are better than infrequent marathon sessions. shoot for 10 or 15 minutes 2-3 times a day or whatever your frequency is, and let the muscles and joints rest.
Yes, I can see that being much smarter. I tend to be the “keep working until you go into shock” kind of guy! 😯
in reply to: Help my poor shoulder please! #34020ausjim wrote: Welcome here Seabass 😀 Sorry to hear you’re having shoulder trouble. My first bit of advice would be that if your shoulder hurts stop shooting till the pain stops. You can use ice and anti-inflammatory’s to assist in that. I’d encourage you to go see a sports doc or physiotherapist. Where is the pain? In the front towards your chest? Round back near the shoulder blade? Or on the outside? And is it muscular or deeper internal pain?
A couple of things spring to mind though. A lot of military guys have a chest/back imbalance (because of all the push ups) that make a shoulder behave unhappily. If you can do 60 push ups but can’t do 10 overgrasp chin ups your chest is probably overdeveloped in relation to your back. If that is the case further developing your back will be beneficial. Overgrasp chin ups and any kind of rows are a good place to start. Again, I wouldn’t do anything till the pain has gone away.
As a final thought, I’ve had shoulder trouble on my string arm before which a rotational draw has more or less eliminated. Moebow has a good youtube video demonstrating this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c8_-96h6BY
I’m not a doc or medic or anything though mate, so take all that for what it’s worth. If you keep getting trouble I’d be hitting up a doc or physio.
Jim
Thanks Jim. The pain is (or seems to be) right inside the joint itself. In that little hollow of the shoulder when raised.
in reply to: Help my poor shoulder please! #34016two4hooking wrote: Keep your shoulder low and back (in line with the other). Keep a slight bend in the bow arm. Hard to tell what you are doing, but if you lock out that arm and have the shoulder at a bad angle all that force just goes right to the joint.
I HAVE been locking out that joint. I will start putting that slight bend in it. Thanks!
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