[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131825

Hi Scout..here Me against…ajajaja…and , pal I do the modification you suggested. I find in my tackle archery box, a Bear rest..that it was from another bow and I put it to the Samick, I re-made the nocking point on the string and I took it to my school to try, previously I made some shots in the back of my house to see what was happening and … Ohhhh … incredible. .no, could give credit to what had happened. All the carbon arrows flew perfectly well. Then I did the test at 20 yards in my club-school and … they also behaved in the same way … INCREDIBLE. Now I have to finish understanding what happened. I have an idea of ​​how the spin of the arrow was corrected with the rest, as you suggested to me. I am so happy and I send you photos of comparison of the  ones done to 10 yards and  to 20 yards. Use to compare Easton Tribute 1916 cut to 30 inches with 100 grains  points and Easton Powerflight 500 total length with points also of 100 grains and all with feathers of 4 “Gateway..very resistant, by the way.I want to share the photos because this experience it can serve other archers and I believe, without fear of making mistakes, that this is the way of the forum and I am very happy about that.Thanks a lot Scout…Im so happy. Best regards.  Alejo

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: HELP!!!! #131747

Hello Troy, as Rgrist says, the instinctive shot is a 70% focus on the objective and the rest of the technique. If you look at the entire 3D target surely all the arrows will hit the target but all separated because you are looking at the entire target. But if you focus on a very small point, very small, in the target, your focus is only at that point and surely all the arrows will be very close and well grouped at that particular point. On the other hand, the real challenge of instinctive shooting is just to achieve the maximum efficiency in all our shooting technique. To that you have to add a large concentration in focus and success, little by little it will pay off d. Do not despair, it is required to throw many arrows to know the bow and know yourself. You must continue training at the same distance until you are totally confident of how efficient you are at that distance and, obviously as it happens to all of us, to know and accept the limitations. Little by little you will gain distance and confidence but use a single bow. The bows vary much their reaction from each other, especially the longbows. Be patient and keep on pulling. Good arrows for you A greeting for you. Alejo
P.S. I was also a compoun bow shooter, for many years.

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131746

Hello Scout … Yes the idea of putting a rest and a plunger is in my plans, but first I want to finish the tests without the rest. Eventually I will have to place it to avoid the bounce of the arrow in the bow and try to get better results.
Thank you very much for all the help you have  provided to me, for me it is invaluable and  your and the other menbers friendship and good predisposition is even more so.
Surely we will see you some day either in New Mexico or here in Argentina. A big hug and see you. Thank you. Alejo

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131719

Hello Scout, if it is true the work that Ptaylor did is very good, excellent I would say. I always competed, until two years ago, with compound bows, but now I passes to the veterans category, in I.F.A.A. and change the type of bow to compete. Now I compete as bow hunter recurve, veteran category, that is to say at the maximum distance, 80 yards.  I buy my Samick Sage, an excellent bow for the price and good performance, simple to maintain and comfortable to pull. My brace is 29.5 “and that’s the problem, I’m right in the transition zone between the two spin, so I have to play a lot with the weight of the tip and the length of the arrow and will try to use short feathers to maximize speed. The other competitors use carbon arrows Easton Axis, Easton Speedlight, Gold Tip Traditional, which give them good results at long distance but not so good at short distances. Carbon arrows bounce a lot in the rest of the traditional bow, which does not happen with the aluminum ones.
Yes Scout, in Argentina you can hunt with bow, there is a good variety of animals to hunt from boars to deer. Notify me when you decide to come, it would be very interesting to share a hunt with a traditional bowhunter friend. Greetings, Scout and good arrows (so we say). Alejo.Redfoxhunter

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131718

If Ptaylor, I also used your system so far. Try which arrow was better in my arc, but this time it occurred to me to use the spin calculator of 3Rivers archery and that made me have many doubts. Thank you very much for your work in the types of bow, it is very correct and I appreciate your effort. In fact, the arrows that best fly are those of spine 600, that is, 1916 and those that follow would be those of spin 500, that is, 2016 but of total length. I thank all those who participate in this debate, I think, it makes us grow more as archers and as friends. I appreciate the effort of all of you because here, in Argentina, it is difficult to get material related to archery and more with traditional archery.
Many of you, Ptaylor, and I will do more tests and I will comment on them. Greetings to you

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131651

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131650

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131649

Hi, Ptaylor…ok I understand…but I try the  3Rivers archery Spine calculator and…seems to not working the 1816 in full length..see the pic. Both , the dinamic spin and the bow spin are not equals.

The 1916 cuted at 29″..seems better.

And the 2016….cutted at 30.5″…looks good…

Yes pal I try …”well then just aim higher…haha!”

Thanks a lot Ptaylor

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131635

Have a nice day Scout and thanks a lot for all.

Alejo.

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131634

Hi Scout, yes pal I do it. Ok I try to get a copy of that handbook of Conrad.

I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina and, sorry my friend for my english, is not my native language but y try to learn more.

This is a photo of the first shotting test. 3 easton gamegetter 500, cut at 30″, 100grains points, 4″ RED shield feathers…..distances 60, 70 and 80 yards. You will see the 3 arrows. you cant see the fethers of the second one but you see the arrow,  each one at the different range,  in the floor…not the 4 on the left…perfectly right in the center way…but all of these shortly in range because they drop off at the final end of trayectory. Is not bad, of course, but they dont arrive at the target….ufff…So, my friend, I will try another arrows and y will  post how it goes.

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: Stump Shooting #131614

Hi people, I use a simple method. Made a small 6×6 foam cube with no centers drawed, kick the cube and then set an eye to estimate the distance and made the shot with an arrow with Judo points.Then take another arrow and try to de new distance. And go on. I never lost and judo point arrow. Simply and fun.

[Alejandro Zubiaurre]

in reply to: The right arrow ( carbon or alluminium) for a Samick Sage, 62" 35 lbs?? #131613

Hy Raymond and thanks a lot  for your time and your info about carbon arrows.

Yes pal, I´m 29,5 inches draw and yes I´m in the brake over point of spines….bad for me. But y have to púrchase a 600 spine carbon arrows and made some released at 50 an so on yards andto the alluminium arrows. I put a 175 and 200 grains points to a 500 spin carbon arrows and at closer distances goes well. So I have to try that configuration at longer distances. I send to you the results of that. Is interesting to try differents configurstions…so…we see what happens to it.

Best regards. Alejo

 

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