[rayborbon]

in reply to: different Carbon arrows #63383

R2,

Good question. I have ventured out and only been successful using Carbon Express Heritage so far. I can shoot 55-60 lb spined arrows about 28 inches in length and 125 grain points out of a 55lb longbow for instance. That is cedar… Now I had good luck with that bow using Carbon Express Heritage 250s. Their chart is on 3rivers http://www.3riversarchery.com/pdf/CarbonExpressChart.pdf I would venture to guess that either the 150 or 250 would be ok for your example.

I found the Grizzlystik was weaker than I expected (noting they stake claims to having a wide spine range). For my example setup I would not use a Sitka but would go one level stiffer. Your example might be on the line and the Sitka could be OK. However since Grizzlystik is so expensive and made in China I prefer to decline.

Now on to expenses. I actually found that as often as my friends and I would break MY arrows it was cheaper to buy Carbon on the long haul. Less breakage. It’s usually my friends who break wood arrows when they miss the target. Like when we do a rock shoot in the desert. We don’t intentionally shoot at rocks most of the time. 😈

-Ray

[rayborbon]

in reply to: No Gloves and hunting #60920

Dennis I practice shoot with gloves and hunt bare fingered. Just like you described you had.

Silencers only on recurve or the deflex reflex longbow. Which are not the bows I hunt with most of the time. I prefer to hunt with a standard issue St. Charles longbow. Specifically the take down version. I have a great liking for his English longbows (what a treat they are to shoot and he is a good craftsman).

No go on brush buttons. We got a lot of brush here. Didn’t find them buttons a necessity.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Screw-in Abowyer Brown Bear #60914

I noticed they like to hunt bricks too. Much like the folks at 3 Rivers Archery and their woodsman. At least they are made in the USA. Looks like a decent product.

260 grains. Piece of cake. Should I throw a log at the critter and hope it get’s there last? Just kidding.

Now if they would convert their bonehead over it would be a good addition to the selections. Although getting an adapter into the carbon shafts so that you can glue on broadheads is pretty easy and inexpensive.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Ethics and hunting public land #56205

That is very interesting and not surprising but should be an awakening for people. The hunting industries really try to sell all kinds of gadgets including the ATV. I bet some of those people don’t even realize their impact on the game or the seasons. It’s frustrating to say the least. One thing which I have been fairly reserved about is the game cameras too. I believe it gives too much of an edge to hunters who cannot challenge the game by learning their behaviors, traveling routes and habits the old fashioned way. With time in the woods. People set up their cameras and just wait for some pictures to show up. Once they do they can decide to put a food plot and hunt that spot with a tree stand. I am not angry that people do this but I believe a lot of hunters who participate in that do not understand that it also will set a tone for future generations and with the edge and higher success rates always comes shorter seasons. They are not bad people and maybe if they do understand but they feel justified. I respectully choose to disagree..

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Ethics and hunting public land #55041

Honestly in our neck of the country it seems that people on loud mountain bikes bugling create more problems than the few ORV riders. However when the ORV riders are found it’s usually behind a gate they are not supposed to be behind and they usually have that attitude to go with it. I stopped getting too emotional when the game wardens proved they could not or would not enforce the regulations we have and pursue trespassers.

The people who ride their mountain bikes out on the forest roads in August and September create a ton of noise and move the elk around and get them nervous. I wouldn’t blame mountain bikes for that. I ride mountain bikes a lot but rarely when hunting.

I don’t really have anything against motorized vehicles and understand it’s the person behind the vehicle who is making the decision on when, where and how to travel on that thing. Having said that it is annoying to walk in and see that someone else decided they were not going to play by the rules. Some people vandalize in retaliation. I abstain from that. It’s illegal and it’s just not my thing.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Taking Down Takedowns #55025

I pack mine in and out broken down until I hit the hunting areas. My favorite take down doesn’t have bolts. It’s a sleeve style and goes together in a snap. Seems logical and simple. Works well.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Online versus Paper Subscription #54362

My kid destroys magazines. Even books get a workout if they are left in the wrong spot. I don’t know why someone would think it might be a generational decision. Maybe I should show up at the Compton gathering with my pants bagging around my knees and baseball cap on sideways with some lip rings so that I fit the mold of my generation. LOL 😈

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Points vs. random drawing hunts #53863

You can “regulate” the ORVs out but people still use them. There would not be enough Wardens to enforce that. The only way you win that is to tank trap the gates and have a good response from game wardens about complaints. They seldom pursue such complaints because they cannot gather substantial evidence for prosecution by “hearsay” “photos” and seem to need to catch them in the act. Most game wardens find it easier to make their bacon at game check stations as opposed to roaming the back country and understandably so. I don’t like ORVs in the middle of my hunt so I hit the wilderness or travel where they can’t.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Points vs. random drawing hunts #53853

We got a point system here. IMHO – I think parts of our system is lame. People with Max Points still cannot draw for elk,deer etc. Seems like the points system was based upon their odds going up having put in their time into the system and they would inevitably draw. The sale of the point system to the public was the typical government program which was partially flawed in such a way the end users feel like they are getting ramrodded. Specifically where it was sold one way and works not quite as good as advertised. We have a point system for deer, elk, spring bear, etc. They take your points and square them and put them into the pool for the draw. So if you go in with 6 points you get 36 chances in the pool.

Now the game dept is searching for more revenue so they decided to break it down even further. They are going to have a point system for quality deer hunts, doe hunts, cow elk hunts, quality elk hunts, etc. It’s all about revenue to them.

One thing about the system here is we do not have a cap on non residents. I think we should only permit them to have a cap of 10 percent of the draws.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: My Java Man Elkheart: The Four Year Wait Is Over #52833

Let’s see some pictures.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Bow Quiver or Back Quiver???? #52772

I like the back quivers when shooting casually. However I prefer something like a side or GFA quiver when it comes to hunting. I like all my equipment exactly where I want it when the small things count on a hunt. It may be worth considering a “GFA styled” quiver. Mine is an old Black Widow bow quiver converted… The GFA style quiver can be worn on the back on the side and is fairly versatile.

You could also make a cheap back quiver for less than 30 dollars if you already have or have access to a leather punch. I ordered some leather last month and stitched one together fairly quickly. Total cost was under 30 dollars. Not as pretty as some well done quivers but gets the job done just fine and will last a very long time.

Good luck finding your quiver.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Online versus Paper Subscription #52770

Thank you Patrick.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: help with antelope hunt #52747

I believe Larry might have been referring to the Hunter Management Areas as well as the Walk in areas. Two different terms. In the HMAs we put in for access and were drawn. Our HMA winning allowed us access to specific areas for those who won the antelope tag as well as won the HMA draw. The Walk in areas should be open to the general public. Some HMAs and Walk in areas do not permit the user to dig pit blinds nor install blinds overnight. If you are intending to use a blind this could be important to know. Wyoming in general is prone to high winds and the blind choice might reflect the fact that it may need to stand up to those winds.

General Info
http://gf.state.wy.us/plpwhmprogram/default.aspx
Login and Submit HMA access (May not be available unti later)
http://gf.state.wy.us/plpwfrontend2008/default.aspx

Yes, the HMAs and Walk areas would be a good tip. The Game Department offices will have the HMA and Walk-in pamphlets available for you. When you enter the state you could drop by one of those offices and pick it up.. Including doe tags if you wish. If you get into a good spot where the animals want to cooperate you may not need a blind at all as much as you might need just a chance encounter. I found that the chance encounters were more likely near the creeks and rivers or along the edges of rock cliffs or rock terraces.

Best of wishes. Lots of Antelope in Wyoming. Should be a nice trip.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Dr. Ashby's Status? #52547

I look forward to reading more Ashby. I need to learn about turbolators and EFOC as well as gaze at some diagrams and reports. I hope he’s feeling better.

[rayborbon]

in reply to: Most Trouble Free Wood Shaft #43622

Fletcher,

You said to report back on tonkin cane.

I picked up some from Rudderbows.com. They seems to shoot good out of this new recurve. I drew a spring bear tag and will be hunting April 15th – June 1st. If I can sneak on a bear I will attempt to make a kill with the tonkin cane. I am confident it is a strong shaft upon opening the package. I treated them like any other wood shaft as far as putting the arrows together. I glue on plastic nocks and fletching. I thought about using some bone nocks but they are more expensive.

Anyway I would say they fly good and straight for me and I feel that they are more sturdy than the standard cedar shaft(as mentioned earlier).

-Ray Borbon
Communist, Marxist (is there a difference?) and Peta Hater

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