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  • Ptaylor
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      in reply to: new arrows #35305

      Nice shooting man! 40 yards is quite a ways.

      Ptaylor
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        in reply to: Recommendations? #35245

        You were right on the $ Troy! The 500s shoot perfect, no tail wag at all, straight to the target. I’m wondering what the actual spine of this arrow is? Here are the specs:

        ICS Bowhunter 500

        7.3 gpi

        30.5 ” bop

        250 grain head

        100 grain insert

        It shoots nice with 29% FOC; however, only 588 grains, bare-shaft. So not as heavy as needed. I want to make sure I understand this right, so correct me if I have this wrong:

        If no bone is hit, then higher FOC leads to deeper penetration. If a bone is hit, then arrow mass is the deciding factor >650 grains. So working under the assumption that you might hit a bone, its better to have a heavier arrow, then work on better FOC.

        preston

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          I agree with you completely Dave, but wanted to be sure you and the gang of test everything until it fails or works hadn’t figured out some benefit to nocks on wood arrows.

          At some point I have to draw the line, or I’ll have to dropout of school to have enough time to go All the way back…:wink:

          Anyway, to keep this on topic, when I was getting my arrows from AMAW, Bill considered tapering them. But he decided against it cause the bow/spine was so heavy and he thought the self nocks would be weak. So I have parallel shafts. I’m interested to know if any of you have used tapered shafts from a heavily spined arrow and had the work. Waiting for your results Dave…

          Ptaylor
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            in reply to: Tracking #34608

            Wexbow, You’re right that is a great guide for European folks.

            Ptaylor
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              Dave,

              Are you shooting self nocks because they fly better or just cause that’s what “you’re supposed to do” out of wood bows?

              Ptaylor
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                in reply to: Recommendations? #34553

                Thanks Troy I’ll try some lighter spined arrows.

                Just so I’m understanding this correctly, theoretically an arrows spine should go down as you increase the FOC, correct?

                Ptaylor
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                  in reply to: Tracking #32748

                  Shane,

                  Since you live in Oregon and have similar fauna, you should check out “California Natural History Guide to Animal Tracks and Scat” by Elbroch, Evans, & Kresky. This is the most recent tracking guide and has some awesome track plates and a great introduction section. Or “Wildlife of the pacific Northwest” by Moskowitz. For the rest of the country “Mammal Tracks & Sign” by Elbroch, this guide covers everything from tracks, dens, feeding sign, scat, beds, kill sites, most everything you could want in a book.

                  preston

                  Ptaylor
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                    in reply to: Recommendations? #32740

                    I agree, its hard emotionally/spiritually to shoot carbons from a wooden bow, but looking at the benefits of EFOC and all the other findings of Dr. Ashby, I’d like to shoot the best arrow I can.

                    Might have to try some lighter weight wood. I was using Ash cause I thought it was tough.

                    I put some really small fletching on the carbons. 2 feathers at 180 degrees, 2″ long, 3/8″ high at the back and tapering down to 1/4″ at the front. With those fletchings the arrows flew really well, maybe making up for bad releases or form. But still all 3 arrow spines flew straight from 30 yards, no veering off to the left/right.

                    Ptaylor
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                      Thanks Dave. I’ve already broken one of my pretty wood shafts, right behind the head hitting a rock. Reading old threads it seems like that and the inability to get over 19% FOC for woods are the main problems with wood. I’ll have to look into the Smoot-on and aluminum footings.

                      By the way- Thanks for that tip of plumbers tape for screw-ins, I’ve been frustrated by that problem for way too long, and such an easy fix was like “Duh! Why didn’t I think of that”:D

                      Ptaylor
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                        Dave,

                        Do you coat your wood shafts with the field point on, or before you mount the point/head? And, do you coat it just a little forward so that the point/head will overlap slightly with the coated section?

                        What exactly is Smooth-on, and where do you get it?

                        preston

                        Ptaylor
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                          in reply to: Going Trad #30319

                          I’m in too!

                          Ptaylor
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                            That’s a pretty arrow, tailfeather. Wish I had some access to that river cane. I have some family in NC and harvested some years ago, it was really fun to work with. Straight and strong.

                            Ptaylor
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                              in reply to: Finished arrows #24050

                              South Texas- Those are 4 feathers, 3 inches long, hand cut about 1.5″ high. Not quite Flu Flu, but enough to steady the points.

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                                in reply to: voodoo or what? #23657

                                I know how you feel. This will be my 4th year seriously hunting with traditional equipment. I’ve killed 1 deer with my selfbow. I’ve blown over a dozen shots. When I’m target shooting, I am pretty good up to 15 yards, then 50/50 out to 20 yards, past that its a guessing game. So I try really hard to make my hunting shots 15 yards or less. And I’ve had lots of success getting to within 10 yards of deer, bear, and hogs. But after 3 years I’ve finally learned that I have to shoot at an animal the way I shoot at the target. When target shooting I don’t hold at my anchor for longer than a second or 2 at the most. But when hunting I’ve tried to pull back and hold and wait for the animal to enter the shooting lane. This has only resulted in tag soup. So this year, I’m going to be conscious about shooting just like at a target.

                                That’s been my problem, and its different than yours. But the way I’ve combated it is to also do some rifle hunting. That way I have meat in the freezer. I also pick up deer laying on the road (I have had a collecting permit in the past, so be careful this is illegal some places). I can buy two deer tags in CA, so I get one Archery Only and one general tag. I take my rifle out after 3 months of bear hunting with a bow. And when I go for pigs I use a gun the last day. This way I’m still learning about hunting the hard way, but won’t starve. If you can get multiple tags in your state I would recommend that as an approach.

                                And one day it will all come together with your traditional equipment, and you’ll be floating in the clouds! Hope that helps.

                                Ptaylor
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                                  in reply to: Finished arrows #22729

                                  Wildschwein-

                                  California has an Archery Only tag, which allows you to deer hunt any zone archery & general season, using archery equipment. So if I travel some throughout the state, I can hunt from the middle of July to the middle of November.:D

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