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in reply to: Martin Archery #63565

JTop wrote: [quote=gobbler716]What are your opinions regarding Martin Archery products? And, no, I do not work for them.

I had alite practice with my 50# rebel today and it felt good. If you stick with their wood bows, you’ll get a quality product. As the saying goes, “You get what you pay for.”:D

Amen to that. I was hoping that lots of shooting with a lighter bow would get me back in shape for my hoyt. And yes, one of their hunter recurves would have been a better choice.

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in reply to: Martin Archery #62825

George D. Stout wrote: Well you should have done a bit of research since you have plenty at your fingertips. The Jaguar is simply a compound riser with imported limbs….not really a Martin/Howatt bow.

Also…I have been shooting plastic stick on rests for near fifty years and they work fine…perhaps you should expand your horizons and learn how they work.

Not sure what you call a “traditional rest”, but there were plastic rests being used before your were born, I suspect. So it really sounds like you didn’t do much homework, or you would have found there are much better buys, like the Samick Sage, or Greatree Osprey, for the same or less money.

I will also add, that there are some folks shooting the Martin Jaguar and doing it well….and with rug rests. I would personally tell you to call John Wert at Lancaster Archery, or even 3Rivers Archery to get some quality input regarding traditional equipment. Martin never built, and probably never will build a traditional bow….all of theirs are built in the Howatt factory under the Martin name.

One more thing, “crooked vendor” is pretty strong language, so make sure it isn’t just frustration over your own poor judgement.

The sight window is cut at least a half inch past center. I could have built a birch ply spacer with some threaded brass studs to get it to where I could mount a traditional rest but I should’nt have to do that. They are foisting off surplus over draw style risers that will need a good bit of custom work to shoot properly. That in my book is crooked. When you consider it is an entry level type bow I wonder how many unsuspecting new shooters are stuck with those bows?

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in reply to: I just can't cut it #59426

handirifle wrote:

Rather than give up hunting completely, why not get a compound (better than not hunting at all IMHO)? If it’s the aiming part that is making you inconsistent. Or have you tried a lighter weight bow? Maybe lighter limbs on your favorite riser?

I have not given up on bow hunting. Indeed I’m going out tomorrow for couple days in a great deer woods. I’m going to use the hoyt because I think the adrenalin will allow me to hold at full draw which I can do now most of the time. I will be hunting on the ground because I too do not have enough patience to stand sit.

I just need to build my strength back up so i can shoot like i used to. Or I get a quality 40# bow and take it from there.

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in reply to: First Arrow Purchase Suggestions #58573

If possible go to a local shop – one where you can shoot your bow. They will get you tuned in. There is a great little shop in “soup town” Wisconsin I go to. They sell mostly compounds but they know traditional too. You stand by the register & front door and let fly about 20′. Not 20 yds. but you can tune a bow to arrows easy at that distance.

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in reply to: I just can't cut it #58444

Nice to be young and strong. I used to be. My old hoyt recurve is too heavy for me now. I can hit good with it three out of five shots which is not good enough for deer hunting. It’s a shame too because the bow is dead quiet, smooth drawing and I used to be deadly with it. It is not a true traditional bow in the sense that it has a metal compound style riser with a plunger button. But man what a great shooter it is, at least when I can hold it consistently at full draw.

When I first started bow hunting my weak point was my fieldcraft and not my shooting. Now, I can go into the woods and get close to the deer with no problem ( let’s just walk down the hill and **** them all). But I can’t shoot like I used to. And rifle hunting does not pose the challenge and visceral thrill like bowhunting.

Keep at it while your young and vital!!!!

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in reply to: Martin Archery #58334

Well I’m not thrilled with them at the moment. I decided to start shooting again this fall and my 27 yr. old Hoyt Ram Reflex is just too heavy for me. It pulls around 55 at my draw length. So I ordered a 40# Martin Jaguar along with an arm guard and some whiskers. First off they nicked me $28.00 for shipping which is robbery. Then it took nearly 3 weeks to get my order. Then I noticed they did not send the arm guard or whiskers. But those are just the minor things!

The bow is a joke. It uses what must be some left over risers that are cut for an over-draw set up. No way to get a good traditinal rest mounted and the plastic one they include is an insulting joke. So when you call them they shove you off on their internet partner ShopTron who handles all returns and refunds etc.

This may be the first time I need to appeal to my credit card company becuase of a crooked vendor. Yeah, I’m angry about it.

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in reply to: My newest set of woods #62302

Thanks for sharing. Those are lovely and will increase your enjoyment of the sport.

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