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Etter1 wrote: If you look into some of the special interest groups involved in the reintroductions, you will see names like PETA and others.
I think a lot of the push has to do with providing a predator other than man to control game populations so that we can be moved aside.
The amount of money spent in lawsuits alone on these canines would blow your mind, and it’s you and I paying that bill.
This is an excellent point as well. Again, I am playing devil’s advocate here in my sheltered (wolfless) part of the US. I do agree with what you are saying. I just hope we can come to some intelligent solution. Be well.
Alex
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Etter,
I don’t think it’s about “changing minds”. I do not see your view as evil or even wrong for that matter since I have never been in your shoes. My big thing is the “wiping out the competition” mentality that is sometimes seen in these types of discussions. Both from hunters and ranchers/farmers.
True, no one wants to see game at low levels, but if they have been artificially inflated, what then? And besides, what gives us the right to choose what animals we save and don’t save? Is it fair to eradicate a specie because we “want to expand and that particular specie can’t play nice with us”? Every time I hear about human expansion, really bad thoughts come to mind. Thoughts of mini-malls and townhomes where pristine woodlands once stood. Habitat destruction is the number one reason for declines in animal population. So we are pushing the animals into tighter quarters, forcing them to survive by any means possible, and then blaming them for doing what we forced them to do.
Again, I don’t have a solution, nor have I walked in your shoes at all. The real point I am trying to make is let’s not do as is happening today in politics. Let’s not put a great divide between us. Let’s work together to find a solution that will benefit all involved. United we stand, divided PETA takes over. Be well.
Alex
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Etter,
I am not from wolf country, nor have I ever even seen a wolf in the wild. That being said, this is one where I have to humbly disagree. I don’t disagree with hunting being a form of wildlife management. That, I think, is spot on, but the “kill ‘em all” mentality (I understand where you are coming from and that it is just a phrase) to me is punishing an animal for, well, being an animal.
I understand the damage caused by animals like hogs (many times brought here by man, I know), but yet they are not evil, they just do what animals do, survive. It’s the same with wolves. Many times I see “hunters” PO’d about wolves, yelling about the damage to deer and elk. To me, it’s just another X-Bow mentality. It’s “I don’t want the competition”. Nature has a great way to regulate predators. Once the prey reaches a certain level, the predators start to have less offspring, and eventually the numbers stabilize. Nature’s been at it for billions of years. No amount of training or knowledge can prepare us for a 4.5 billion year head start.
I’d like to also point out 2 little factoids. 1) There are more deer in the woods (fields, farms, etc) today than there have ever been in recorded history. 2) Over 90% of every animal that has ever lived is now extinct. This doesn’t mean that I want any animal to disappear, but it leads me to wonder if there is not a greater plan, and that extinctions are simply part of it. If so, who am I to stand in the way? I don’t know, nor do I profess to even have a clue. I simply don’t have issue with the animals that are supposed to be in the woods being in the woods. I have no more problems putting back an animal that man has brought to near extinction than I do planting a tree from a seed taken from a tree I cut down.
I don’t think we will solve the world’s problems on this forum. It would be nice if we could as we are probably the best judges of what goes on out there. It’s certainly not the politicians, it’s not the huge corporations pushing the next flashy gadget, and it is most certainly NOT groups like PETA. Thing is though, if we OK the eradication of a certain animal (wolf, coyote, etc) because they HUNT, how long until that same argument is used against us?
Again, I have very limited experience, and I am sure if I saw AND LIVED both sides of the coin, my views might be a bit different. But in the end, I stand beside you as an ethical hunter. I may not hunt predators, and you may, but we are part of a group that needs to band together. We can settle our differences between ourselves. To the outside world, we are united. Be well.
Alex
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Alex,
I’ve been watching my cat stalk a laser pointer for years. Still, North Korea’s last nuclear test made less noise than me in the woods trying to be “stealthy” 😕 . I have been hunting from a stand for a while, so now I just try to get to my stand without letting every animal in the county know I am there. I figure I will just build on that. I would like to read some suggestions though.
There is one situation in particular I find impossible. Once the leaves fall (the farm I have permission to hunt has many black walnuts, and those leaves seem to fall early), I just cannot seem to make my way through the sea of dry dead crunchy things. Meanwhile, I have sean deer walk through them without a sound. Is there a secret? Footwear, technique, levitation, what?
Be well.
Alex
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broadhead wrote: I’m going to brew a batch of IPA this week. Hope it turns out well.
broadhead,
Other than imperial or dry stout IPAs are my favorite. You’ll have to keep us up to date on the results. I usually have a pretty sophisticated grading system. I have a few six-packs of different [popular] beer in the house in plain sight in the fridge along with an equal amount of mine. I invite some friends over and give them some of my beer. I tell them “there’s more beer in the fridge”. When they all leave, I check the fridge. If there is only my beer left, I don’t use that recipe any more. If there is none of my beer left, I keep that recipe. 😆 😆 😆 It’s worked so far. BTW, I am not so far in as to grow my own hops and send samples to the local crime lab to get molecular analysis of content. I just like to dabble (and drink). Good luck with the IPA. I’m sure it’ll be a winner. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: 23 Days Left!! #59509Can’t wait to see them. It’s been a few strange seasons here in SE PA. It’s almost march and in the past 2 years we have had less snow combined that one good snowstorm of seasons past. Maybe there is somehting to this whole global warming thing. I just still ain’t convinced we are doing it. Anyway, can’t wait to see the pictures. Be well.
Alex
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Hunting, fishing, just about anything outdoors and reading. BTW, paleoman, if you ever start on that Russian adventure and want to bounce some questions off someone, let me know.
Lastly, solitude. I have been dreaming more and more to “get away from it all” and not come back. Take the family and be somewhere where you cannot see your neighbor. It’s a dream. Who knows, maybe one day.
Right now, I am trying to get into building bows and flintknapping.
Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Correct Spine of Aluminum for Longbow #58221Penntradarcher wrote: They shoot pretty good…
Remember that many of these tools are starting guides. Their ultimate goal is the quote above. So… if it ain’t broke…
Now, if you feel that the spine is affecting your shooting even a bit, grab a test set. You can get them from several dealers like 3rivers. It’s whatever arrow you order in a few different spines. You can use the tools to “guestimate” which one will work, but ultimately, if “they shoot pretty good”, what more do you need? IMHO, of course. Be well.
Alex
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Like the polar bears, who’s numbers are steady-to-increasing? I sometimes wonder if it’s to save a specie or just to keep busy. Sorry, didn’t mean to add politics into a purely archery thread. But since I already did, does anyone know what happened in the Supreme Court case attempting to de-list the polar bears? Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: 4 x 3" Fletching #55767Here is what I had about 4X2″. Not sure if that’s what you were thinking of. Hope it helps. Be well.
https://www.tradbow.com/members/cfmbb/messages.cfm?threadid=3A6F2174-1422-1DE9-ED3EDD356422B917
Alex
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in reply to: Arrows???? #54813Cyrille,
Welcome. 😀
Too new to help, but looking forward to hearing what others have to say.
Also, Happy Birthday! 😛
Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Giving It Up #53999Tree stands are my own personal heck 😈 . Like the guy who has his liver eaten by a bird only to have it grow back the next day. I simply cannot sit still long enough to even have a chance of seeing something 😳 . There have been no amount of ADD meds that have been able to help me 🙄 . Thing is, I started hunting with all the gadgets, so I never really learned to hunt. I wish I could stalk to within a county of a deer, but I cannot. So far, a tree stand is still my best option. But one day, I hope to “hang it up”, so to speak, like you. good post. Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Cliff Zwickey Head #53542DWC,
Back to the “point” 🙄 , and I promise I will mark this dead horse beaten to the fullest as well. The broadhead has the following in bold at the bottom of the page:
•May not be legal in some states. Check with your state DNR
So… Just “pointing” it out. [getting real bad here 😕 ]
Be well.
Alex
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in reply to: Aluminum Arrows #52647Interesting. Is there a reason given for the mandatory use of wood? What is their view on carbon? TBT (truth be told 😀 ) I have never seen any difference with Al arrows whether shot from my recurve, or LB. I’d be curious as to why. Be well.
Alex
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