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WOW! Dave, I think I’m smarter just reading that article.:D
Lot’s of 25cent words there, lol, just kidding you my friend.
Truthfully, you have a vary good way of making the reader think, and really, isn’t that what it’s about, if we/they will stop and think for a second, it makes perfect sense.
I also, am a spiritual hunter, I must get to the HIGH COUNTRY to worship GOD, to see his handy work.
As I roam the mountains, He speaks to me in signs and wounder, I hear him call my name, bidding me to come closer.
I don’t believe in the theory of evaluation, ( for me, it takes more faith than to believe in creation ) however, I think adaptability is self evident, I do like the way you used it though, kind of spoke to them in there language.
I do respect and appreciate you.
SO, HUNT HIGH AND HUNT HARD, THEIRS A BULL CALLING YOU, TO COME DANCE.
Hi Todd, my son shot that one, using a 60lb Axis bow from Hawaii my friend made me, the hog was around 300lb, shot it in the Heart, no exit, it ran around 50 yards and he hit it again.
As far as 40lbs for Elk, good luck with that, you’ll need it.
Can it be done? sure it can, and it has been done, just extremely limiting what shot you can take.
What happens if you flub the shot? or what happens if it moves at the shot? ( assuming you made a perfect shot )
In my REAL world, stuff happens, regardless how good of a shot I am, or how good I pick my shots.
I am not an advocate of light HUNTING tackle, nor, am I for over bowing your self, however I am for shooting more bow weigh for hunting than what we shoot for targets ( the Olympics men’s archers, shoot around 50lb bows for over 300 shots per tournament, maybe we might want to exercise )
To me, it is so silly, to try and shoot the lightest hunting tackle I might get away with.
Just my 2 cents 😀
I really think it’s sad, that a lot of tradbow hunters are trying to shoot the lightest tackle they think they can get away with.
Unless you have an injury or physical limitations, or are just to dang old to pull anything stronger than a rubber-band lol, I think it’s just laziness, ( don’t shoot me, it’s just my opinion ) a lot of guys shoot a lot of arrows at the practices butts, singing the song of,” I shoot better with a 45lb bow than I do with a 60 lb bow” well of course you do, every one does, ones good for targets and one better for hunting.
If you exercise and work out to shoot a heaver draw weight, you can shoot a hunting weight bow quite effectively, can you pound the targets with a hunting weight bow? maybe, some guys can, but most cant.
What I see is, a lot of guys hunting with there target bows, justifying there decision, with stupid statement like ” 45 lb has always worked just fine “, I know a guy how killed a Elk with a 40lb bow “, “there was a guy who shot a moose with a 40lb bow”, a lot of animals have been killed with 40-45lbs and lighter bows, does that mean it’s the best for everyone ” no ” if that’s all you can do, then that’s all you can do.
Shooting a lighter draw weight hunting bow comes with a lot more limitations, both in the angles and shots you can take, because of the tackle I choose to hunt with, it gives me a lot more shot opportunity’s, both in angle and distance.
If my setup can consistently shoot through the pelvis girdle and exit the off shoulder on deer size animals, why would I not take that shot, first you have to know that your setup is capable of achieve this level of penetration, I have tested my set up, and used sold information from others.
I would be a knuckle head if I did not try and keep improving my equipment, getting stuck in the rut of, ” it’s always worked for the Indians ” I don’t have a week for it to die, I have to go back to work.
Just because theirs an outdoor writer, who happens to bowhunt and wright articles does not make them an expert, use your own brain, it is not that hard, as Forest Gump said; “Stupid is as stupid does” — How stupid you are should be judged by what you do, and not by your “cover” (appearance).
I have to ask my self: if everything go’s right, a buck at, let’s say 15-20 yards, relaxed broadside, can a 40-45lb kill this buck, I would have to say yes, there is a high percentage it will get the job done.
I also have to ask my self:
What will happen if I mess up the shot?
What happens if it spins at the shot?
What happens if it jumps the string?
What happens if ” Murphy’s law” shows up?
I already know the answer to these questions, poo-poo happens, how do I know? it’s already happened to me, I’m an above average shot, and all of the above has happened to me.
I broke both shoulder bones on this buck.
The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing, expecting different results, if you want different result, some thing has to change.
All things being equal, am I better served with less cast or more? less kinetic energy or more?, less momentum or more?, less penetration or more?.
If 40lbs works, will 60lb work less? is it about my favorite draw weight, or is it about, what will give me the highest return with the least chance of failure, we all have limitations, however, don’t I have a responsibility to shoot the absolute best tackle I possibly can, with in our chosen limitations.
Most hunting shots are less than 20 yards, with a lot under 15 yards, I need to be able to consistently place my arrow into the vitals ( that’s like hitting a volley ball ) I am not shooting 10, 20, or 50 arrows, like at a 3D shoot, I am only shooting one or two arrows, surely for bowhunting, I can shoot a little more hunting weight, and still maintain good accuracy.
For me, I want more of every thing, if my arrow blows through everything I hit, is that a bad thing or a good thing?
This is the scapula of a buck I shot through at around 5 yards on the ground
If the buck I shoot at, drops at the shot, and I hit him in the scapula, I want more than I need to get through the rib cage, what do you think will happen if you blow through both shoulder blades? verses stopping in the near side scapula.
Shot this hog right through his scapula
There has never been an animals lost because the bow hunter got to much penetration, however, there has been a lot lost, because of lack of penetration.
Around 17 yards, head on, on the ground, that’s a lot of penetration.
We get to Piggy back on the experience of those who have gone before us, we don’t have to guess, there are laws of physics that have to be obeyed, if you choose to violate them, you will suffer the consequences of you ignorance.
Just my 2 cents, you can do with it what you want.
Wind! Wind! Wind! really it’s all about the wind, I have 9 bears now with trad-gear, all are spot and stock ( California no bait ) closest one was about 3-5 yards feeding on thimble berries, longest shot was maybe 20, if that.
Bears like to move a lot, just like pigs, they don’t stand still for vary long, they will stay in the area for a longtime, they just keep moving around like, there always looking for something.
The 1st & last hours are the best, it seems when they come out in the evening there hungry, almost always head to food.
I shot one in his bed once, ( That was fun ) however it is really rare to find them in there bed.
Glass, glass and more glassing is how I find them, then run to them to get close, then slow way down, getting as close as I can, once he gives me my shot ( always under 20 yards ) usually around 10-15 yards.
This one was around 5 yards.
Shot this one right outside Los Angles with my son at around 6-7 yards, small sow, but man was it fun, she had got into a pine tree to sleep, was covered with pine sap.
My son was 9 and kept asking me to take him bear hunting, so after work one day, I took him to the mountains to walk him around tell dark, never thinking we would see a bear.
He asked if he could lead us down the trail after about an hour of hiking and I said sure, ten minuets later he says ” BEAR “, I say; where, he say’s right there, and points up the trail, theirs a bear doing his thing, right in the middle of the trail, he see us and go’s below the trail, as we hurry up to where he was, careful not to step in his mess, there he is looking up at us, not sure what we are, he stood there 2 seconds to long.
My hunting buddy Vance smoked this big boar at the last minute of a 10 day back packing trip, we got out at around midnight, he spotted it the last night and did not have enough time before dark to get to him, he asked if it would be OK to hunt it in the morning, as we have 14 miles to pack out.
I said; go for it, just be back by 9:am, I’ll pack every thing up so we’re ready to go, well 9:am came and went, around 9:30 he comes over the hill with a huge smile, “GOT-UM” was all he said.
This one, was being at the right place, at the right time, I was still hunting when I hear something coming my way, I turn around and this guy is coming right to me, I already had an arrow nocked, I just needed to turn to take the shot at him loping by at around 10 yards.
As the arrow jumped through him, he jumped on a tree right next to me, as he was running to the top, blood was spraying everywhere, then as he reached the top, he broke off the last branch and fell dead at my feet.
I looked around as though I was on candied camera, I could not believe what had just happened, I never moved my feet, just took the shot.
First trip out
This was my hardest earned bear, as I hunted 8 miles one way from our camp, until I shot him.
I was down at the bottom to the right behind the far ridge against the far mountain.
What a day, sun up to 2 hours after sun down, I did stop at the pass and light a cigar as the sun was setting, remembering a friend, I had first hunted this area with in 1980 who had died, needless to say GOD IS GOOD.
