thanks steve j,
yup i am new to this and there are so many choices out there.i have not found to many ttrad guys here on long island yet.i shot a bob lee long bow which felt real nice. a check of that web site had some good sales(400 range). i dont know if i should spend a little more or stay in the bear range. these forums are good but i guess you really need to get out there an try to shoot a few different one.