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      I have not tried the Hammer but I have been using the 300 grain field points from 3 Rivers. The steel they are using to make them is soft I have bent 2 points that insisted on taking the low road. Jim’s picture seem to show the same weakness.

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        I understood the point you were trying to make Harmon. If you only goal at the beginning of the hunt or season is a picture with a large buck or bull then your reasons for hunting are all out of whack.

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          in reply to: Watch covers #52805

          Nice tip Jim, in your line of work that could be a life saver.:wink: For me it just means pork & beans for supper.

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            R2 wrote: We used to cook with our Dutch oven buried when I was a kid in Idaho. Some of the best goodies ever.

            I felt bad though when I told a friend about it and here on the Lake Meredith Rec area, Fed land, he gave it a try, buried the oven up and went hunting. Danged if the feds didn’t bust him for having an unattended fire. Might be a thought for some areas.

            You just have to cover the bail with the dirt:wink: Nice video Clay my son has already called bibs on my dutch for his scratch baked beans on the 4th.:D

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              [quote=Steve Graf]

              While baiting may reduce the uncertainty, it doesn’t affect the other 3 legs of the ethics table. But I would argue that the difference between baiting and not baiting is way less than the difference between a trad bow and a scoped rifle.

              Should we throw rifles out with the bait?

              Rifles have an advantage over bows correct so we shorten the season. Steve just for argument sake should we consider the individual that puts out bait and removes it at the end of the day ethical? It would seem that they are creating “Pavlov’s Dog”. Then they can shoot a deer of their choosing at a time and place of their choosing. It seems closer to shopping than hunting. Also why is it unacceptable to bait waterfowl? I believe it is an unfair advantage. It is my belief that the skill factor goes down when you can place a pile of food and sit back and pick your prize.

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                Steve Graf wrote: Following the links Dave provided, I found the following discussion of ethics vs preference very interesting…

                http://www.huntright.org/where-we-stand/ethics-vs-preferences

                Just saying…

                I have to agree with Dave here. His portrayal of baiting is the exception not the norm. I live next door to Wisconsin and the average baiter hauls out 3 to 500 bushels of corn and assorted other attracts. They surely do not haul anything resembling bait back out of the woods. This just another “Big Tent” argument, do not worry what the other guy does as long as it is not defined as “illegal”. Now I have to go to the Orin site and voice my feelings. Thanks Dave for the update.

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                  I’m sorry Mom, my point was not to bash the N!@ but to point out how a large organization losses it way as it is taken over for other purposes. Hope you had a Lovely Day fishing.:D A small intelligent and articulate group can get more done than a large we got to please them all one can.

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                    What you seem to be referring to is something on the order of the NRA. What normally happens with large organizations is they take on the big tent theory. They say that we can not judge how or what another chooses to shoot. Why do they do that? Money, big corporate money. When money gets involved it become a fundraising mechanism for politicians. It also becomes a way to drive a ideology to divide the electorate so groups with similar goals stay divided for the corporate and political party good.

                    Oh ya I went to the range today and shot a bunch of arrows for practice in preparation for the Rapids Traditional shoot this weekend. 😀

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                      I have donated to them for years. They have never faltered in their message. I am sure that some corporate money has been offered to sway their message but they have stayed the course.

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                        in reply to: P&Y changes mind #32192

                        I understand your sentiment Steve that if you do not fight for change it will not happen. I hung on to my RMEF membership for 10 years working to see it change back to it original mission. But finally I could not support them any more. It seems sooner or later money finds its way into the process and strings that come with it are tolerated and the costs are justified.

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                          in reply to: Nhambiquara gear #28416

                          I believe there was a quote from Ishi in Pope’s book about that hunting outfit. It was something about paying attention to to where the bush and thorns were and going very slow and cautiously.:oops:

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                            in reply to: P&Y changes mind #28406

                            I have always used the brick wall analogy to explain this. The wall does not magically appear it just comes 1 brick at a time and before you know it there is NO way out.:evil:

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                              Hold on Mike no body told me we were having a contest for the best dumb question.:D

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                                in reply to: Thankful… #27334

                                Dave I like you new end quote, it is so true.

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                                  colmike wrote: Fallguy- great ? but I figured that for an answer. Any ideas how we convince the better half that $100 for a water bottle is required:roll: Already using Smith hammers name for other need to have stuff and after she watched Clays movie last night she thinks he is great because he does it with that low cost primitive stuff.

                                  What an enjoyable dilemma:P:D

                                  Mike

                                  Just look at the up side Mike the bottle is lighter and so is your wallet. Thats the best part of Titanium it is doubly good at lightening the load.:D

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