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in reply to: Which is faster a Long bow or a Recurve bow? #37246
Cottonwood wrote: Todd – I stumbled across this, this morning and thought I’d pass this along. It looks like it might be a good project at a low cost and end up with a nice Longbow.
http://cgi.ebay.com/U-finish-take-down-hickory-longbow-/320576256385?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0
Thanks for the link but I really want to it myself from scratch. Like the last bow I made then Broke…
in reply to: Where do you get your tradional supplies from #33670Duncan wrote: 3 Rivers Archery has good customer service. Bass Pro has a few traditional items. There are others you can find with a google search.
i have tried a few from google search most don’t even know the difference between a recurve and longbow. I have used 3 rivers before they are good but ship very slowly.
in reply to: Does any one use true traditional Equipment #32832I have a couple friends who have used stone broadheads & they say they really open a wide hole & let a lot of blood out.
Frank
I have killed a few deer and hog with Stone broadheads and they make a big hole and they create a huge blood trail. When you think about it, Newer metal broadheads with a razor sharp edge makes a clean cut with no tissue tearing to increase bleeding. A stone head is like a steak knife or the jaws of a shark, very jagged and very sharp, so it not only cuts clean like a razor, it tears tissue, musle blood vessles, and hide when it goes in. The result is one massive blood trail. Especially when I have a complete shoot thru. If you get a chance you should try them out.in reply to: What type of bow does everyone shoot #31648Brock63 wrote: It depends…this year I am using a 15 year old Jeffery Royal Hunter recurve…red oak limbs backed with clear glass.
Sometimes I hunt with one of my other recurves (Robertson, Habu, etc)…
Then other times it is either an osage selfbow with static recurve tips or a vine maple selfbow with slide deflex in center and reflex on limb ends.
For arrows it is doug fir or sitka spruce with usually Ribtek heads but will also use trade points.
it is all good…
Very nice setup and Your avatar it looks great
in reply to: Does any one use true traditional Equipment #31214“Still interested to know what type of target you use for practice so as not to damage the points.”
I use an old burlap bag stuffed with very tiny plastic beads that are used in sandblasting. I use a inner and outer configeration to build this target. I fill a bag with these tiny plastic beads they are packed niether tight or loose. Then the burlap bag is sewed close and the bag is wrapped in duct tape completely. ( the duck tape is there to seal the hole when you pull the arrow out.) I then place the whole thing in another burlap bag and I paint 3 bullseyes on one side and a deer silluete on the other. It is placed in a homemade stand with lawm mower wheels so I can move it around my back yard. I shoot into it from my treestand, from the ground pretty much where ever I want. It is not pretty but it works very well. I do not shoot to many broadheads into it only enough to make sure I am still on target. The obsidian points seem to hold up to this. It has been the only target I can find that does not dammage the Obsidian Head. If I use Flint heads they work just as well with this type of target. For most of my practice I have several obsidian and flint heads that I do not chip to a fine edge this way I have less breakage.
I do not sight down the arrow when I shoot I use a snap technigue for shooting kind of like throwing a baseball. I learned this technique from watching old Fred Bear hunting videos and reading Howard Hill’s book. It works real well for me. Thanks for the reply.
in reply to: Does any one use true traditional Equipment #30323T Downing wrote: “As for using stone heads I know of no state that outlaws them.”
Colorado for one…Yes you and Dave are correct, but I am not going to Colorado. I am going to Montana to hunt. I will check the regulations there to make sure I am within the law regarding equipment. thanks for correcting me.
in reply to: Does any one use true traditional Equipment #30308Pothunter wrote: Hi Todd, and welcome, it’s interesting to ponder just what traditional means.
That aside I have a question for you, what do you use as a target to practice on as obsidian and stone can be so easily damaged.
Mark.
this is true they are brittle compared to todays steel broadhead but they can be quite stout. I have been experimiting with flint and it seems to be stronger but the obsidian is much sharper I think. I am still experimenting with both. I look at it this way for hundreds of years obsidian and flint were the btoadhead of choice by ancient people and the indians of the U.S. It worked real well for them, so why not work in mordern times. Thanks for the reply.
in reply to: My First Hand-Made Wooden Arrows! #30168No when I first started to make arrows I knew nothing of spine weight. I just bought the ones that looked the straightest and went with them. I was only shooting a 25 pound draw and believe it or not they shot ok Now there were no olympic size groups bu after some practice I was able to hit a papper plate 3 out of 5 times at 20 yards. Pretty funny when you think about it. When I started moving up in weight that’s when I started to see all types of crazy things starting to happen. So I bought some ready made ceder wood shafts from Outdoor world. They worked real good. Then I made my first set of real ceder arrows with correct spine and everything. As for the poly, I at first used 5 or 6 coats like you but, doing that my groups got erratic. I spoke to an old timer at my club and he told me that I was using too much poly and changing the spine of my arrows. So I now use only 2 coats. Thank for the reply.
in reply to: Going to Hunt Elk need some advice #29969Thanks for the feedback Dave I kinda thought I might be a little lite on the draw weight. I think I can make it work if I get my shot just right. I will check on the flint broadhead issue as well. Thanks for the feedback
in reply to: Does any one use true traditional Equipment #29911ToddRvs wrote: I was reading through all the posts and it surprised me at how so many of you actually use true traditional equipment, like self bows, home made bows and arrows, flint or stone broadheads etc. Don’t get me wrong I am not critizing just surprised that’s all. After all this is a traditional bowhunter website.
So how many of you actually use true traditional equipment to hunt with.
I hope you did not take my post wrongly, I ment no disrespect. I just consider traditional archery, what you call primitive. By that I mean no aluminum arrows, mass produced broadheads, or compound bows. I have used all of these different type of archery equipment with success. As for using stone heads I know of no state that outlaws them. I know the places I hunt, mostly in the south the only stipulation is that it has a cutting width of at least 1 inch. Other states I can not say though but I am planning an Elk trip later this year and I will definently double checks the regs before I go hunt there just to make sure I am following the law.
Has anyone else taken any game with Flint or obsidian broadheads?
in reply to: How much bow and arrow for hogs? #29868Jesse Minish wrote: A 40# bow will smash though a scapula of a deer with the proper arrow and sharp head! Most wounded deer are not wounded in my opinion but just lost to poor tracking abilities.
I have killed several deer with a 41 pound 28 inch selfbow I made. I use ceder or bamboo arrows with flint or obsidian hand chipped broadheads and every shot was a complete pass through on the deer one shot even punched through the spine of one of the deer. All shots were less than 30 yards and most were in the 15 to 20 yard range. 40 pounds is more than sufficient for deer size animals. In fact I an heading out west to hunt elk with this same setup later this year. Will let you all know how it goes.
in reply to: How much bow and arrow for hogs? #29855Kingwouldbe wrote: Hi Snuffornot, to me there are a few type’s of hogs.
* under 100lb can be killed with almost any bow arrow combo.
* above 100-150lb is starting to get pretty tough and needs a good set up that’s able to penetrate at least 10″-12″ of chest.
* above 150-200 is a tough animal to kill with a bow, a hog of this size can have some real armor covering there vital area, the heaver bow you can shoot the better ( now we are not target shooting, we are hunting and we usually only take a few shots, so we can usually shoot 5-10lb heaver ) a heavy arrow with a deep penetrating broadhead.
* above 200-400 are as tough as they get and can take a ton of punishment and keep going, only the best of gear can penetrate deep enough to get a kill on these boars
Just my 2 cents my friend
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How big is that last hog in your pictures. I have seen some good size hogs nothing on that scale though where did you shoot it at and what was the weight and what equipment did you use. Great hogin reply to: How much bow and arrow for hogs? #29851Duncan wrote: I’m thinking of doing some hog hunting early next year and was wondering what weight bow and arrows do other members use for hogs?
DuncanI have killed a few hogs the biggest b eing 210 pounds with a homemade bow and ceder arrows with flint broadheads. My bow is rated at 41 pounds at 28 inches,
in reply to: Bear S/S Super RazorHeads…thoughts??? #29827lee c wrote: Hey all,I don’t see them around much as I do the Bear Greenies,but,what’s your thoughts on the S/S Super RazorHeads made in the 80’s? Ya know the ones..they were stainless steel,had a blued ferrule,screw on type?? Just looking for thoughts,experiances,opinions….thanks fellas Take care,Lee
I have used both the Stainless version and the old green version of the Bear Super razor. I prefer the older green version. they are easier to sharpen and hold an edge better than their stainless counterparts. The stainless version are hard to sharpen and dull very quickly. I also do not use the bleeder blades because every deer I have shot with them the bleeder blade breaks loose and lodges in the hide or the soft muscle and I now use them without the bleeder blades.
Overall a very good blade that will serve you well.
in reply to: cheap feathers? #29820Steve Branson wrote: Just wondering where you guys get your feathers from? I usually go with 3 Rivers, but any shops out there much cheaper?
I get all my feathers from a slaughter house that processes Turkeys. The slaughter house is back home in Arkansas so I only get them once a year when I go there to hunt on family land so I be sure to stock up. I go there and get a box full and then I clean and sort and dye them if needed, then I sell or give them away at my local archery club.
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