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in reply to: i got a Q. #9311
1/2t…I think I see what you’re wanting to do. However, as Dave said, it doesn’t really make sense when there are easier (and cheaper) ways of obtaining that extra 20 grains. The brass washers he’s talking about weigh, I believe, something like 5 grains per washer, so by adding 4 of them behind your head, you’re back at the 145 grains. In truth, once feathers are on your arrows, you really won’t see a lot of difference between the two weight points, but that’s just me. My accuracy when I’ve dropped to a 125 gr from a 145 gr really wasn’t affected. 20 grains really isn’t a whole lot when you figure in the total weight of the arrow. My arrows weigh around 585 grains, total, so 20 grains is a mere 3.4 percent of the actual weight of the arrow. Not enough to affect arrow flight significantly enough to cause worry. Good luck and welcome. Let us know how you come out.
Michael.
in reply to: Opinions – What would you guys do? #62940I agree with what everybody else has said. Don’t go into a tough situation with somebody who’s qualities you’ve only been told about. The guy may be a great guy to share camp with, but as was said above, it doesn’t sound like he’ll be much help if you get an animal down. And don’t compromise. You’re going a long ways and spending a lot of money on this hunt. Unless you’re Donald Trump and have cash to burn (can I have some?), do your hunt YOUR way. Good luck.
Michael.
in reply to: The ugliest moccasins ever! #58463Nice moccs, Chris!! Very nice. I’d be interested to see the video, when you get it done, too.
Michael.
in reply to: hi,I am new in town… #58458Luca,
Welcome to TradBow. There is a wealth of information on this site about shooting traditional archery tackle, as well as a number of other topics.
Don’t worry about your English, as many English-speaking people can’t write any better than if they tried to write in Italian. As for stiff and weak arrows, yes, they do fly right or left, depending. For a right-handed shooter (draws with their right hand), an arrow that is too weak for the bow at that draw length will have the nock end of the arrow to the left of the point. For an arrow that is too stiff, just the opposite. You can adjust the spine by tip weight and/or shaft length. Obviously, if an arrow is too stiff, we can’t add any length to the shaft, so the only option is to try a heavier tip. For an arrow that has a weak spine, we can either try a lighter-weight tip, or cut the arrow to a shorter length. When you cut your arrow, only cut it by small increments, to keep from cutting too much off at once and ending up with either an arrow that is too short, or too stiff. If you wind up too stiff, but still at a length that you can shoot, once again, try a heavier tip. Good luck, and let us know how we can help.
Michael.
in reply to: The before and after of the Super Kodiak #56854Nice job!! Looks great. When I got my Kodiak Magnum, it had a bunch of junk stuck to it, like residue from tape or something…but when it got wet at a bow shoot this spring, all the residue just kinda washed off. I was stoked.
Michael.
So basically, what you’re saying is that for a period of 8 weeks or whatever, it’s “Open Season” on deer in NC? That just isn’t right. Morally, environmentally or conservationally. Just not right.
We just went to Antlered Buck Only for the western portion of Montana, with minor exceptions in SOME areas. Apparently, predator numbers are up, and deer have been declining for the last few years due to predation, hunting and inclement weather (harsh winters), and the fawn crop isn’t what they feel it should be to maintain an antlerless season.
BUT, on a positive side note, they did DOUBLE the statewide quota on wolves from last year’s 75, or at least that is my understanding.
Michael.
in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #55692USMC 82-86 wrote: That’s pretty impressive. Do you think if the woodsman was 10 grains heavier that it would have penetrated completely or would the 10 grains not have made enough difference?
I still think that was pretty nice penetration either way you look at it with both heads. The single bevel did take top honors here. I will concede that fact, but the shot was at 5 yds with no other material encountered, such as hide and muscle. My question is would the same shot at 15-20 yds have produced the same results? I am just curious if either arrow would have had the energy to penetrate bone after passing through the hide, muscle,ligaments and tendons at 15-20 yds?
I did see the photo with the 4 inches out the other side
of the board but no other medium was encountered. My guess is, at 5 yds the results may have been the same with a little less penetration if hide, muscle,ligaments and tendons been encountered. Thoughts, I am willing to listen.I don’t think that another 10 grains on the Woodsman would have made a difference in the penetration. I don’t believe that the head would have cleared the back of the board.
I’ll see what I can come up with for a longer distance test between the two broadheads, and post pictures of that as well. I don’t have any more of the wood I used for those test shots, but I’ll find something else similar. And I’m conjuring up in my mind a second “medium” for the arrow to pass through. And believe me, I have a REALLY good idea for that “medium” :twisted::lol::twisted: AND, to make it better, I’ll even shoot from 15 yards. The broadheads will be the same, too…factory grind on the 2 blade, and a hunting-sharp Woodsman.
Michael.
P.S. I looked up both the VPA Terminator and the Woodsman ELITE. The VPA is made by Zipper Bows, also known as Zipper Manufacturing in Ohio. I don’t know who makes the Woodsman ELITE, but my understanding is that only 3 Rivers Archery carries them, because they have the patent of whatever on the Woodsman broadheads. I know that the lighter weight (100, 125, 150 gr) Woodsman’s are a vented broadhead, while the heavier (175, 200, 250 gr) heads are non-vented. Going off of the pictures I was able to find, the VPA’s are all non-vented. Also, the ELITE’s are all screw-in models, from 100 gr to 250 gr. VPA offers two heads that are glue-on, in 160 and 190 grains. The VPA’s also are only available in 175, 200, 250 and 300 grains. Also, as far as the pictures are concerned, the basics of the heads ARE very similar, but may not be identical in all aspects. Anyway, this is what I found about the VPA Terminator vs. the Woodsman ELITE.
P.P.S USMC 82-86, just curious…how old were you when you went in to the USMC? I was born in 81.
in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #53453Ok, I lied. The 2 blade had to split the board AROUND a small knot in the wood. LOL.
Oh, and the Woodsman was hunting sharp, whereas the Grizzly had just a rough factory grind on it. And ya know what?:?::arrow: It STILL beat the 3-blade hands down. :lol::twisted:
Michael.
in reply to: 2 Blade double bevel and 3 blade vs single bevel #53450
Ok, I tried to make them smaller…Wouldn’t let me. Anyway, here are the pictures from my experiment between a 3 blade 150 grain Woodsman and a 2 blade single bevel 160 grain Grizzly. Both are screw-in heads on identical shafts.
Michael.
in reply to: Elk hunting tips #52311LOL….speaking of calling in other hunters….Yes I have. And rattled in other deer hunters, too.
in reply to: Sorry….Just a pet peeve of mine. #51223Ahh, yes…I forgot about the grammatical part. BUT, Dave did say there were “at least three”.
Michael.
in reply to: New intro video?! Tell me what ya think! #51215Awesome video, Chris. Can’t wait to see the edited version.
Michael.
in reply to: Sorry….Just a pet peeve of mine. #51212Patrick wrote: [quote=David Petersen]George my friend — were you once a gradeschool teacher? :D:P:wink: Brother, if we want to go there, that’s just the beginning of the end. But then, neither am I much of one to pet my peeves in privacy. Those darned peeves seem to crave public attention. 😈
One from my own peeve kennel: “I thought to myself … ” We see this even in the NYT, supposed home of the most elitest of the elitest writers. Yet, as my wife puts it, “Unless we’re clairavouyant, who else can we think to but ourselves?” Just so.
OK, “the prize” goes to whoever first finds their own pet peeve being mal-petted in my above. What’s the prize? I’ll have to think about that, to myself of course. LOL dp (Hinjt: there are at least three.)
Speling errers 😉
Dave, here are your intentional errors. Funny thing about TBM’s “Reply” windows…they are equipped with spell-check. I just thought I would mention that for anybody that never cared to notice the little, red squiggly lines under misspelled or unknown words.gradeschool
elitest (x2)
clairavouyant
HinjtMichael.
in reply to: HEAVIER HEADS….? #51209msarcher,
You’re shooting fairly close to what I’m shooting. I shoot 60# at 29 1/2″, and I cut my arrows (2117 xx75’s) at 31 1/2″ with a 145 gr. field tip and 150/160 grain broadheads. My finished arrow is somewhere around 585 grains. I don’t know how much arrow you want out in front of your riser, but with 175 grain tips, you could probably get down around a 30 to 30 1/2″ arrow, and a heavier tip would get you a bit shorter. Just hafta play with it a bit. I’m looking at possibly going to a heavier tip, as well, at some point. Good luck, hope this helps some.
Michael.
in reply to: Elk hunting tips #51197I remember one time, my dad got into a herd down in SW Montana, and when the elk took off down the mountain (I think he spooked them a bit, somehow), he took off running after them. After a little ways, they started slowing down and eventually stopped, and he was right with them. He got a shot at the bull, but unfortunately missed. He figured that by running with/after the herd, because they were crashing through the brush, and so was he, they figured they had left the danger behind them. I don’t know if this would work in most situations, but it got him a shot at the herd bull, even if he didn’t connect.
Michael.
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