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in reply to: Most Trouble Free Wood Shaft #53585
Patrick, Trouble free seems to be the question. I would place ability to get spine and weight match at the top of the list for best arrows. That usually leaves me with POC. Even then if only spine matched I find 100 to 150 grains difference in weight in most dealers stock. Getting well matched arrows in the woods is even harder. For me trouble free means I buy spine and weight matched POC as the CHEAPEST reliably available. Cheap is my favorite word. As well as the Indian saying “any bow good bow. Arrow heap much work”.
Patrick wrote: Of the three, which would be most trouble free:
Port Orford Cedar
Douglas Fir
HickoryI’m going to give wood arrows a try, but I’m having a REALLY tough time deciding which way to go. I chose those 3 because they seem to be the most readily available. Any advise is appreciated.
in reply to: Can you twist a flemish string too many times? #53573Just reread your question. Semper Fi from an old Marine and thank you for your service. I spent many long days in the Camp LeJune mud
in reply to: Can you twist a flemish string too many times? #53568I was taught that twisting is like tying a knot. The more you do the weaker the string becomes. 3 twists per inch is about ideal. Less than that there is danger of untwisting the loops. Often times if I miss or want to use on a different bow I make a bowers knot or timber hitch on one end. That’s faster than tying the second loop and allows for brace height changes without weakening the string. Different bows by design us different brace heights. I find if there are factory string grooves in the bows belly, bracing where the string leaves the groove about 14 inch from end of groove is a good starting point. Has worked on most bows I have ever tried it on. The maker didn’t put the grooves in without a plan. Most older bears can have an 8 to 9 inch brace height
in reply to: Endless vs Flemish Fast Flight #53561Couple of thoughts on strings. Use what works for you. Cutting a string in the field is a known issue. I don’t want to take time to change strings especially in a tree stand. If string is made correctly you can keep shooting Flemish. The old rule of thumb was make string 10x the bows poundage. Thus a B50 Dacron with 50 lbs of breaking strength would only require a 10 strand string for a 50lb bow. Most people make these and newer fast flite etc much thicker. A 14 strand would allow 4 strands to be cut and be safe. Extra weight means slower arrow and less efficiency but quieter bow. Also less strands means double serving sometimes.
in reply to: Please introduce yourselves, I'll start #28140Charlie wrote: Hello, from sunny South Carolina. Retired from Navy 1993. 21 years on Submarines. Been archery hunting 20 years and doing Trad for the last 5 years. Will never go back.
Hi Charlie, I visit meggett, sc regularly. Do you know of any traditional clubs or shoots locally? I am currently getting 3 people there set up to try traditional and would like for them to meet shooters from area. Thanks, Jim
in reply to: Experimenting with EFOC is Expensive! #19189Please see my comments on getting efoc in wood arrows this forum. $ are hard to come by . Cheap lets you experiment for almost free.
in reply to: Wood arrows and EFOC #19181The same thoughts are dawning on me. As a primative maybe even primate I tend to pick up all kinds of things in the woods. Have been using aluminum “footing” to salvage broken wood arrows. This sortta lead me to efoc by accident. Now I can get weight, efoc and correct spine for different bows by hanging the needed weight to broken shafts in the form of footed aluminum socks. Even works with found high dollar carbons. Not as pretty but really works for all the above at greatly reduced costs. Cheap is my favorite price. Would Primitive man used these materials. You bettcha. Waste not want not.
in reply to: Please introduce yourselves, I'll start #18049M wrote: 1armarcher,
WOW! Thank you for your service and sacrifice.DITTO AND SEMPER FI FROM AN OLD NAM VET. LIMA 3-26 2ND PLATOON AKA THE FILTHY FEW
in reply to: Endless vs Flemish Fast Flight #17637For me the real test is in the field far away from repairs. A properly made flemish string can withstand several stands bieng cut or broken and still shoot. One cut endless strand and you better have a backup string with you.
in reply to: PAYING FOR PERFORMANCE OR NAME? #17596Patrick wrote: [quote=LimbLover]I’m literally surrounded by Black Widows where I live. 5 of my friends shoot widow longbows or recurves.
Dang, I don’t even personally know 5 people who shoot traditional!
Patrick, Get invovled with local or regional 3d shoots. I meet a guy recently saying the same thing. I took him to our local shoot and he saw 5 men he worked with, 3 0f them stick shooters. On a visit to Chas,S.C. the same thing from my friend. As we watched workers put in new gate, I saw bow decals on a truck. A little conversation and he now has a hunt club membership with Tradional shooters within 20 miles of his home. HUNT FOR THEM!!! They are there. Traditional people tend to be loners. Stalk them like you would a deer. They can be behind every bush. On the actual post question, I have shot for over 50 years and as of yet can’t outshoot any properly made bow of any price. I try to get new people to just get a Martin X200 and will bet most can’t outshoot that bargin basemebt bow. After a few years then step up. If you learned to love it get any bow you can afford.in reply to: what bow for long draw length #14724I hear a lot of talk about short bows. Must be written by short people. If I can move 74″ of myself thru the woods then 66″ should follow easily. If you mind it matters. If you don’t mind it don’t matter LOL
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