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in reply to: Back vs. Bow Quivers #28169

Quiver? I’ve never gone into the woods with more than the one and only arrow I’ll need……….. :lol::lol::lol:

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in reply to: Mid Summer Feeling #23869

dp, I couldn’t agree more. Similar to the degradation of our archery season by the high-tech compounds and soon to be x-guns, here in Indiana the whitetail gun season has been degraded by inline muzzloaders, handguns and now rifles that shoot handgun cartridges.
As you said, I don’t care what they do during gun season. My point is I grew up hunting with my father with each of us carrying recurves during archery season and flintlocks during gun season.
Now, it almost scares me to go into the woods during gun season (chasing bunnies with my beagle). When they let handguns into the woods for deer hunting a lot of people (target shooters) started deer hunting just because they could. Opening morning sounded like a war zone and I’m sure a lot of deer were not recovered properly.
The x-gun will do the same to our archery season. There will be guys who only normally gun hunt that will buy a x-gun to join the archery season. This cannot help our cause. 🙁 Mike.

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in reply to: scent masking #21534

Scout, keep in mind I’m looking at a biology book and it’s based on the abililty for an animal to pickup scent. It does not contain any info as to the reaction of an animal once it gathers this scent information. Back to my example above(from the book) that the scent level a deer picks up from us at 300 yards is the same scent level a bear could pick up at 420 yards (+/-). Here in rural Indiana, a deer scenting me at 300 yards probably doesn’t even stop feeding – it might just cast a casual glance my direction. High powered rifles aren’t allowed here and a 300 yard human scent does not insite the “flee” response normally. However, a bear at 420 yards picking up the same level of scent may run to the next county….(not saying that we have bears in Indiana, just speaking in general)

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in reply to: scent masking #21496

Homer, thanks for the welcome. The table I have is from my daughter’s college Advanced Biology book and it lists “Bears” (Just as it listed “Deer”). No further breakdowns by sub-species is given. It lists bear at 500-600 million. So roughly twice as many as deer/elk. By the non-linear formula referenced, this equates to about 40% more of an ability for a bear to pickup your scent than a deer would. (i.e. If a deer picks you up at 300 yards, a bear can sense the same at 420 yards.) Does this seem right to you guys who’ve hunted both species?

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in reply to: scent masking #21454

cyberscout wrote: skifrk –
My sentiments exactly – but interesting to see a test. I would be curious to know what difference in acuity of dogs scenting ability vs deer/ elk ?
scout

Deer/elk have a keener sense of smell than an AVERAGE dog. The trained nose of a police dog can nearly rival one in my estimate. A typical dog has 230 million olfactory receptors. Elk/deer have 280 million (+/-). As humans, we have 5 million. The ability to pickup scent is not necessarily linear so 230 vs 280 is not a huge difference…add in the special training a police dog receives and I don’t think you’d see a difference – especially for us traditional guys….busted at 20 yards is still busted at 20 yards. A rifle hunter might see a slight advantage with the stuff because it can make a hunter that is 300 yards away seem like it’s 350-400…maybe that’s enough for some fool to squeeze off a bad shot.
Good Hunting, Mike.
I’m new to the website. Picked up a copy of TBM 6-8 years ago and have been hunting traditional ever since. Sorry for using my name as my screen name, I thought I’d get to pick a cool name like you guys once I signed up for the forums. I live in Indiana and haven’t hunted out of state yet. BUT, I’ve got an elk hunt planned the end of Sept and a combo lion/bear hunt the end of Nov….I’m not getting any younger so I’ve got to knock these off my bucket list.

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