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in reply to: Experimenting with EFOC is Expensive! #51024

Now that I think about it Cupid shoots arrows so maybe I could work it that way but then I would have to wear a diaper but I would get to chase her around the house ………. Oh the tradeoffs

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in reply to: Experimenting with EFOC is Expensive! #50400

If I buy arrows instead of the valentines day dinner I won’t live long. I don’t mind spending the money but am trying to reduce the probability of making a mistake. My bow is A constant as is the BH,adapter, and insert. That leaves the arrow shaft as the variable so what carbon shaft specifically would you start with? All opinions welcome.

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in reply to: Experimenting with EFOC is Expensive! #48618

I am not sure I understand what you are saying can you give me an example?

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in reply to: Experimenting with EFOC is Expensive! #48596

So then I should buy some arrows with the lightest GPI and try to tune the bow to the arrow?

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in reply to: Snakeskin backing #25472

Thanks for the help. I am going to call him, and we are both in Ohio.

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in reply to: snakeskin backing #23647

Dave,
Have you ever seen or tried the limbstations by onestringer? Hoping they might be a better product.

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in reply to: snakeskin backing #23577

Thanks for the info very helpful. I will repost the question in the campfire forum. I was going to try the fake skins to see if I liked the looks etc. but if they are shiny it defeats my purpose, I am trying to cover the shiny limb finnish that is on there.

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in reply to: Horne Archery Recurve for sale #22435

Sorry right hand bow I paid $825 a year ago. I am open to offers,and I have a thunderhorn quiver that screws into the riser if you are interested in that also.

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in reply to: Horne Archery Recurve for sale #22235

If you are interested it is a takedown recurve that 58″ long and draws 47# at 28″. The riser is bacote and maple and it has curly maple limbs. absolutely beautiful bow I just dont think it fits me. I shoot my old Bears better, but this bow is much smoother and faster.

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in reply to: Take down vs one piece #16422

of course you could get a short bow and put it in your duffle bag. My bow is 48″ arrows always seem more problematic to pack than the bow.

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in reply to: WHATS EVERYONE SHOOTING? #15433

1972 Bear Super Magnum 48 55# bow. Love short bows for hunting.

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in reply to: Intentional Shoulder Shot #15325

I shot a doe on saturday from a distance of about 10 feet. I was up in a cedar tree on a steep hill. The doe was facing uphill quartering away above me on the hill not the tree.One of three things went wrong 1. my lower limb hit a branch 2. I misjudged the extreme angle 3. the doe jumped the string. I think it was a combination of 1&2, but the arrow hit the doe in the neck and hit the spine. The doe dropped in its tracks but did require a finnishing shot. I was not using an EFOC setup because I am not ready yet. I was using carbon express heritage 150 arrows standard aluminum insert and a 145 Zephyr head with bleeder blades out of my Bear 55# Super Magnum 48.I think this qualifies as a succesful failure because the arrow penetrated to the spine but was stopped cold. The BH was not damaged bleeder blades gone, but not enough penetration.This was a lucky shot not planned this way but the arrow ended up where it shouldnt have. More and more my personal experience shows these classic non EFOC combinations leave no margin of error and I would never take an intentional shoulder shot with one and in fact I fear hitting a deer in the shoulder. That is why I think I and maybe others out there hit a little to far back and hit the liver with agonizing results for both hunter and animal. I think we are all saying the same thing a little differently but with an EFOC arrow/bh combination I would be more confident in trying to slide the arrow right behind the shoulder very close because I would have more margin of error if I did hit bone. Gun season starts next monday so I should be ready with my Ashby system when it ends. I am allowed 6 deer so I will keep shooting to gather some real world experience on single bevel vs. bone

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in reply to: Intentional Shoulder Shot #11999

The heart and major arteries lie low between the front legs of a deer shooting through the shoulders (I did not type shoulder blade) could be your best chance of hitting them depending on angle and penetration. The legs also provide locomotion to the deer so disabling one or more legs should decrease the ability of the deer to travel great distances. These are the questions out there for discussion and the big question I have is it better to err more to the shoulder area than back further and risk a paunch or liver shot. The title of this thread is Intentional shoulder shot not Intentional shoulder blade shot.

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in reply to: Intentional Shoulder Shot #10807

I am working on an EFOC set up because in a shot I would rather err towards the shoulder than the liver. I would prefer a quartering away into the vitals behind the shoulder shot but that doesnt always work out and of course things go wrong beyond our control. What I wrestle with is the fact we never know for sure until the deer is hit. I am narrowing this down to Carbon Express Heritage 250 arrow, 100gr brass insert,250 gr Abowyer brown bear including insert. If I can tune my bow to shoot this it should penetrate both shoulders and give a pass through shot according to “the reports”, but I wont personally know till the arrow hits the deer and I see for myself. We all hate wounded lost deer and my goal is to minimize this when everything goes wrong.

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in reply to: Intentional Shoulder Shot #9466

Steve Sr. Thank you for the honest response. I am still formulating all this in my mind,but I have decided to adopt/adapt to an efoc single bevel set up because S@#T does happen in the woods.Good luck finding your buck.

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