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in reply to: How much broadhead weight on my setup? #52760
Thanks guys!!!
I know exactly what I’ll do. I rigged up a 350 with a 145g Zwickey Delta on a 30g adapter. That gives me 175g up front.
I’ll rig another up with the same setup only this time I’ll use a 75g adapter which will bring me to 220g up front.
I know the 250s will handle 150g up front but will try the same thing.
My issue is that I’ve only got about 10 yards to work with in my basement and there is no where to try broadheads out at my range. It is illegal to shoot within city limits even though my yard is completely enclosed.
FYI, Gold Tip 3555s are a funny arrow – much stiffer than they are spined in the charts. They shoot MUCH better out of my Dad’s 50# longbow than the 150s which weigh more – no matter the tip weight.
in reply to: Technology Kills Tradition? #52067SteveMcD wrote: But I have to question. How is “Instinctive” considered “Traditional”. Does that mean “Point On” and “Gap” is not Traditional.
Definitely not. I’m talking sites. IMO, point on and gap style shooting is instinctive as well. Its all the same thing IMO. But..I’m not going into that because it is a completely different argument.
It is one component of may components in MY definition of what I think is traditional. It isn’t the ONLY component. lol
I admire the “Go Big or Go Home” spirit. I feel it ensures that a line is not crossed and that the primitive spirit is not lost with time and technology. Unfortunately, the location of the line is far too blurry. Many would tell me I’m not traditional because I shoot a glass-backed bow with a shelf and carbon arrows. I find that to be silly. The power is coming from my body, the placement of the
arrow from my eye, the passion from my heart.Technology will not kill the traditional spirit if we do not allow it to do so. I feel we do that through encouragement of the primitive ways, not by setting boundaries and assigning labels.
in reply to: How much broadhead weight on my setup? #52037580 is plenty for me for Michigan Whitetails.
in reply to: black widow bows #51952They are great bows. There is no doubt. They shoot great. They have a lot of kinetic energy, draw smooth, and are ultra quiet. They have more laminations in their limbs than almost any bow on the market. They also have great customer service.
Personally, I do not care for them.
I’ve gone to shows and checked them out. I have eight friends that all own custom models. I just can’t get into them. I think they all look the same.
There ARE a lot of bows that are easily comparable for less money but Widows are the Harley Davidson of bows. They have a following that will never be rivaled. I don’t care what anyone says…names sell bows. I’m a marketing professional and I’ve seen it too many times to be convinced otherwise.
I don’t condemn anyone for paying the money for one. I know so many that have and are happy. Shoot what makes you happy, just remember that they are an option…not the ONLY option.
in reply to: Technology Kills Tradition? #50924Snuffy, my last sentence was still directed towards the traditional bow – not a compound.
I specifically had metal-riser bows in mind like the Quinns, Hoyt Gamemaster, DALAA, etc.
If it doesn’t have wheels, mechanical aids, or fancy sites, I am fine with it. I too would like to see a traditional only hunting season.
in reply to: Technology Kills Tradition? #50590I don’t think ethical is necessarily the right word you want to use here.
If you are comparing speed vs. ethics than you are basically labeling compound shooters (as a whole) unethical. That simply isn’t the case. Hunting ethics are hunting ethics no matter what gear you use.
It seems like the debate is whether the bow would still be considered traditional or not – and we all know how objectively that term is defined.
Personally…as long as you are shooting with your fingers, using some kind of instinctive aiming system, and your bow is not mechanically aided – it is traditional. I am not a fan of risers made of anything but wood and glass, but I do not condemn their use.
Awesome Jon.
I actually got my Dad hooked on it. It took me 2 months but now he shoots every day and calls me every day to talk about it. For the first time we deer hunted together last year as I was never interested in hunting until that point.
Its amazing what traditional archery/bowhunting can do for families.
I can only hope my 2 week old little girl will want to shoot bows with her Daddy and Grandpa someday.
in reply to: Banana Cut Feathers…Anyone else love em? #49921Mine are pretty high and yes they are loud but I don’t mind that when I’m not hunting.
I’m looking for places to buy them in bulk right now. Tradtech archery is the only place I have seen them.
in reply to: Banana Cut Feathers…Anyone else love em? #49388Do you cut your own then? Mine are pretty high and I’ve never seen anything different than what my Dad and I have purchased in the past.
Every person I’ve ever seen shoot a stock-cut banana feather all had whistling in their arrows.
in reply to: The one thing I discovered…. #49331Well said.
Don’t be afraid to subscribe to that blog Cotton. lol
No problem Kerry!
I am lost with Woodies. Useless as hell in that regard lol.
I think you could put a 145g head on a 30″ 250 and be okay.
FYI, my Dad shoots a Gold Tip 3555 out of his 50# Bama at your draw with a 125g tip and those shoot fantastic. A Beman MFX 400 would probably shoot well for you too.
Well…if you are planning on hunting I would add one inch to your draw length to accommodate a broadhead. That way the blade isn’t up on your knuckle at full draw.
So I would go with a 29.5″ or 30″ arrow to determine what spine you need.
Check out the arrow charts at your favorite companies – though they are always a little on the stiffer side.
I think you need a 340-400 spine depending on tip weight. The stiffer the spine, the higher the tip weight you can put on it.
I think a Carbon Express Heritage 250 with a 125g tip would be a good start.
-Nick
in reply to: The one thing I discovered…. #46452You are definitely not going to get as much oomph out of an all wood selfbow when compared to a glass-backed recurve.
A selfbow of that design will trump a recurve in a few ways, but not in that way.
in reply to: The one thing I discovered…. #45005That looks to be a self bow and I do not see any glass unless it is clear?
You can tell if it is backed by fiberglass or not.
A fiberglass-backed modern longbow is going to give you just as much penetration as any recurve.
Focus more on the differences in grip and what not. Its all in how it feels in your hand when considering a longbow. FYI, you may notice a drop in your accuracy for awhile while you are getting used to it. Shooting a longbow well takes time to develop.
USMC, what is your draw?
I draw at 30″ and shoot a 31″ arrow. The Carbon Express Heritage 250 with a 100g-125g tip shoots great out of both 55# Bamas.
However, my bocote bow is a bit heavier than my other bow. It probably pulls closer to 62# and I’m now shooting a Heritage 350 out of that bow so I can put more weight on the end.
If you shoot an alumninum, the Easton 2117 shoots great. The 2018 shoots well also.
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