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in reply to: Aiming Methods #41054
“Is it possible to consciously turn off the mind while practicing?
I believe so.” Quote by Konrad
Yes it is!!! Matter factly, that is goal!
I use the conscious mind on the close bale to work on each aspect of my shot,, ingrain it to the point that the subconsciuos can run the shot,, totally during a deliberate shot. This frees the mind during a hunting situation or 3-D shoot, to just “Aim Only” and trust the subconscious to run the shot. As a well known Trad coach says ” when the conscious mind starts checking on the subconscious mind, the shot goes to )*&! The goal is for the sequence to be burnt in at close range until the conscius mind knows it is ingrained, then the two are free to do their jobs independently. The mind can only focus/concentrate on ONE thing at a time!:)
in reply to: Aiming Methods #41034I just hope beginners or those just starting in Trad Archery research other shooting methods before adhereing to the video methods! Many good points are made but,, as I watched the gentlemen shoot, I must respectfully tell others that snap shooting really leads to some bad lifetime habits in shooting the Barebow with success. As G Fred has said “you must push and pull” and as Rod Jenkins says “never quit pulling”. Canting is OK but snap shooting without utilizing back tension really brings on problems to the shot that lead to Target Panic and other maladies. I would like to see the Gentlemen shoot at 60 yards, then 50, then 40, then 20? Respectfully stated that a more deliberate method useing at least a seven step sequence ingrained on the blind bale,,close bale until the subconsciuos can run the shot allows the consciuos mind to just aim!!! I am primarily a Hunter which brings on much more responsibility to the the Animal I hunt to kill him cleanly!!!! I too advocate having fun but must stress that when a Person takes to woods with a Bow to hunt a Rabbit or an Elk, a very dedicated mindset of respect to the Animal is what is required. To be prepared for this, a very deliberate skill level must be reached in his/her shooting ability before the undertaking. I do NOT advocate shooting at Game at the longer ranges mentioned but do believe that shooting consistently at longer ranges in practice/training leads to better consistency at hunting ranges. Longer ranges really does show how your form and equipment performs along with really showing up flaws. Very interesting and thought provoking video, thank you for posting it Sir!!:)
in reply to: Where Would You Live? #25576Colorado!!!!:)
in reply to: It's getting CLOSE! #23551Interesting read ref; Arkansas Turkey Populations/fluctuations.
in reply to: Aiming Methods #23456Split vision 0-20,,after 20 I start using the arrow point and gap at target. I shoot with both eyes open all the time so I am only aware of the position of the arrow point in my peripheral. I really do not need to shoot past 20 hunting anyway. I do not snap shoot!!!!!! I pause at anchor and pull through the shot to conclusion.:)
in reply to: Gap Method #20771Blessings Jason! Good to talk with you.:D
in reply to: Concerns regarding speed and kinetic energy #20107I am impressed with your homemade Bows!!
You must remember that pre-load has a lot to do with performance. The LB may not be the best choice by design to accomadate your shorter 27 inch draw. The Recurves evidently have more preload and make up for the short draw length somewhat.
Some R&D LB’s have more preload than others. You might investigate which one might serve you the best according to your draw length requirements.
Try this, Draw your LB back an inch more than your drawlength and see if the increase is more than 4 fps or so. This may indicate that it may well be more suited to a longer draw.
As far the ability to be effective in field on live animals? Shoot as much as you can and be in control with relative accuracy to your query. I hunt Elk with 50 pound Recurves but I use FF strings and have high performance set-ups. I keep my arrow weight around 12 grains per inch on larger stuff like Elk and have had very good success, never have lost an Elk I put an arrow into (knock on wood) with good shot selection. I personally would not have a serious problem hunting Whitetails with your Longbow at the arrow weights and speed you posted but would keep the shots close, within 20 yards or so. The third Bow you mentioned would be a very capable Elk Bow!
in reply to: Gap Method #20080Jason, I used a clicker for a while and it helped me. That was a year or so ago and have since moved on to working out my shot sequence steps to the advanced level.
Waht I mean is, I have perfected my sequence all the way to the expansion part of the shot. The little bugger that I am working on now is expansion to conclusion. I do not even refer to the release as part of the shot sequence anymore because as Rod says, “It is a action that is a result of the sequence”. I rely on the subconscious to run the shot to conclusion so that I am free to just aim.
I am now working on having a 3 parts of my expansion as a sequence broken down. I first get to anchor, then on to alignment and begin expansion. I start the back muscles pulling the string and begin my aiming process. Once this is done and I reach the 2nd,3rd, part of expansion which is really just pulling with the back,, The shot just happens! I have all the other building blocks of my shot to a level of subconsciuos control,,,am working on my expansion being this way so I am totally free to just aim and the shot happens as result of the sequence being ingrained through practice,,,practice ,,>>>————> This has done so much to improve my shooting that I no longer need a clicker to trigger the shot. The shot trigger really should not even be a conscious thing but an accumalation of the process being ingrained in the correct manner of learning how shoot a barebow. I insist,,believe that most of us started shooting a bow the incorrect way,, No good coaching or by a Mentor that was also not teaching the sequence in proper format. Try this,,, I know you at a level of advanced skill. Get close and do your bale work, get to the expansion phase and maintain your hook on the string. Start pulling the string with your back muscles and feel the tension starting to pull the string to the rear while maintaining your anchor. Pull until fingers jusdt start slipping off the string. After you have this down? Then incorporate aiming and focus on setting point and gap only. The shot will just trigger itself when the internal mental process has completed it’s cycle of aiming. The goal is this, That the subconsciuos totally runs the shot, and that your consciuos mind accepts the fact that it can do it!!! Aiming is all the conscious mind needs to be doing. So what I am saying is this in conclusion; The shot trigger is non existent when done correctly! So after you have this ingrained (the sequence) you no longer need a consciuos que to trigger!:D
in reply to: New to trad looking for advice #20028I hunt Whitetails on the ground when the leaves are still on. I usualy go up a tree later on when the leaves are gone but sometimes treestand even early when I might be hunting in warm weather and sweat.
I always Elk hunt off the ground with my type of hunting but would carry in a lite climber if I found an active wallow that did not have ample cover for a hide.
Excellent replies!! Thank you. Yes I like the low heel of my hand just resting against the grip. Most of the force is in the web of my hand. I just let the wrist relax and allow the rearward force to translate to bone on bone all the way up the arm. A more open stance allows for more string clearance. When the shot goes off,, the push to target just happens with the bow arm.:)
in reply to: Why onestring? #15018Nice Mike!:D
in reply to: Noteable Quotes! #10977Hatchet Jack
in reply to: New to trad looking for advice #10957Some say a Tab gives a slightly better release and hardly wears out like a glove. I am a glove shooter but can use a tab also. I prefer the American Leathers gloves with the Black Widow glove a second choice. I have two AL gloves, one is Elk hide, the other is Buffalo. The Elk glove has been used for four years and is just now broke in good. It has been shot thousands of times and carried on two Elk hunts and numerous whitetail hunts. I shoot at least a 100 arrows a week year round unless illness prevents so you can see it has and still is a good glove.
If I were just starting out in Trad?? I would start with very light poundage and work on the form first! MOBB volume three and follow Rod Jenkins advice. 🙂
Thanks DW! I personally use a low grip when I shoot. I like the low grip because it allows more bone on bone contact than the high wrist. The wrist being relaxed and the heel of the hand sitting down on the grip allows for a relaxed Bowarm. No wrist fatigue after a lot of shooting. Also like the repeatable grip a low wrist hold affords.
in reply to: How Was Your Winter? #8653Mild here,,,gonna be a lot of ticks this summer! Matter fact, I have picked them off my dogs all winter.
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